New Seaking 180A-R ESC and Leopard 4082 1600Kv

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  • Bigbore
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2010
    • 168

    #1

    New Seaking 180A-R ESC and Leopard 4082 1600Kv

    I have been running a Titan 29" with 5S2P Zippy LiPo 5000mAh.
    I've been using and external BEC and added a water pump for continuous cooling but last week due high temperature of water and air I was able to burn the Lepard 4074 2000Kv. My fault was to run for more than 2 minutes continuosly without checking the temperatures with an X440/3 prop.
    The Seaking 180A, that I've been running, was burnt too.
    So, I have ordered this new stuff.
    Anybody knows this 180A Seaking? It has a label 180A-R, what doest that mean?
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    This is the motor and I like the back plate where the cable exits and the holes to let some air to cool the winds, it's different from my previous 4074.
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    Then I would suggest to the other owner of the Seaking 180A ESC to seal this spot, in my burnt ESC some water passed that spot and I know it from the little corrosion I found inside.
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    On the other side there is some kind of stuck rubber, this stuff is from the factory.


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  • JackBlack26
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 905

    #2
    The R is probably for the added resisters. They usually only come with 3. That one appears to have 5.

    It's cool that Leopard added those cooling holes. Should keep thing a bit cooler.

    As far as the open space between the two cooling ports, there have been plenty of people that use different materials to cool that area as well. I don't think water getting in there is an issue.

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    • Rumdog
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Mar 2009
      • 6453

      #3
      Not a 5s motor. That's why it failed.

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      • Boaterguy
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Apr 2011
        • 1760

        #4
        Originally posted by JackBlack26
        The R is probably for the added resisters. They usually only come with 3. That one appears to have 5.
        you mean caps, the things sticking off the side?

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        • iamandrew
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2010
          • 577

          #5
          you sure thats not a 5S motor?
          everything ive found on the net shows that 2000 or 2200kv motors that size can handle 5S.
          theres new buggy motors like the one in the HPI Vorza which is 2200Kv and runs 2 3S packs in series

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          • golfito
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2011
            • 296

            #6
            hello:
            I can ask if I add capacitors to your drive? I think 35v capacitors are
            1000 uF.
            Connect them in parallel connection?. To achieve 5000uF? . That achieves improved performance or increased security achieved with this modification.
            Excuse me please so many questions.
            Regards, Hernan

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            • Boaterguy
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Apr 2011
              • 1760

              #7
              not all 35V capacitors are 1000uF, but you can get some
              they should be connected in parallel, it will more be a safety feature than improving performance. capacitors are there to "compensate" for the voltage drop when the cells are under load.

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              • Rumdog
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Mar 2009
                • 6453

                #8
                boats and cars... not the same.

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                • Bigbore
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 168

                  #9
                  Originally posted by golfito
                  hello:
                  I can ask if I add capacitors to your drive? I think 35v capacitors are
                  1000 uF.
                  Connect them in parallel connection?. To achieve 5000uF? . That achieves improved performance or increased security achieved with this modification.
                  Excuse me please so many questions.
                  Regards, Hernan
                  Yes the caps are parallel connected and are 35V 1000uF like these: http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pro...k-cap-35v-1000

                  I've ordered also this Etti ESC Capacitor Bank: http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pro...d=etti-e035-lv
                  Because the stock caps are not reliable, the little wire connection between cap and board tends to break.

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                  • Bigbore
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 168

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Rumdog
                    Not a 5s motor. That's why it failed.
                    You're right! I wanted to try the same ..... and learned by smoking that I need a lower Kv so I'm installing the 1600Kv.

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                    • iamandrew
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2010
                      • 577

                      #11
                      No im going to have to disagree with you guys in regards to the "OH thats not a 5S motor" comments
                      A boat that size with that KV motor should handle 5 S packs no problem
                      A lot of you guys seem to think that shoving 10S packs in a boat on a 500kv motor is the solution, the only problem you seem to be forgetting is that all these packs are adding weight, so you then stick props that are either too big or too much pitch, then complain about snapping the drive shaft, or crap handling etc or your 2 minute run time.

                      In regards to the actual reason this guys stuff has blown out, is probably due to not enough water cooling. a water pump should not be needed, and if anything has probably jammed its impeller or somthing like that, thus slowing down the water passing through the components.

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                      • Diesel6401
                        Memento Vivere
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 4204

                        #12
                        Originally posted by iamandrew
                        No im going to have to disagree with you guys in regards to the "OH thats not a 5S motor" comments
                        A boat that size with that KV motor should handle 5 S packs no problem
                        A lot of you guys seem to think that shoving 10S packs in a boat on a 500kv motor is the solution, the only problem you seem to be forgetting is that all these packs are adding weight, so you then stick props that are either too big or too much pitch, then complain about snapping the drive shaft, or crap handling etc or your 2 minute run time.

                        In regards to the actual reason this guys stuff has blown out, is probably due to not enough water cooling. a water pump should not be needed, and if anything has probably jammed its impeller or somthing like that, thus slowing down the water passing through the components.
                        I disagree to your disagree a 2000-2200 kv motor on 5s in boating is a fail as you have just seen. reason being is that added amp draw at higher rpm. Watercooling is NOT going to prevent or stop the amp/ddraw surges which are created by the higher amount of rpms. 500kv motors have there place in very VERY large hulls and in those veryVERY large hulls the extra weight is actually needed to keep the hull in the water at higher speeds. Now the size of the hull would be mighty big for a 500kv motor like 50+", in which the cell count weight would not matter at all. Rpm management is very important in boating. Go see how many guys have blown there setups running 1515 1y motor on 5s and 6s going 50+mph there is a lot of water cooling but yet the setups are still failing why? because of the amp spikes!
                        Last edited by Diesel6401; 09-28-2011, 01:12 PM.
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                        • Diesel6401
                          Memento Vivere
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 4204

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Rumdog
                          boats and cars... not the same.
                          +1 on that, too many guys thinking "i run 6s on my erevo with not problems why does it fail in boating" smh!
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                          • martin
                            Fast Electric Addict!
                            • Aug 2010
                            • 2887

                            #14
                            +2, To many look at their esc spec & because it says 6s or 7s think its safe to use in a boat on say 6s. Unless its something like a 180amp esc its not safe to use 6s in a boat. Amp draws go out the window in boats compared with cars.

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                            • Boaterguy
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • Apr 2011
                              • 1760

                              #15
                              Originally posted by martin
                              +2, To many look at their esc spec & because it says 6s or 7s think its safe to use in a boat on say 6s. Unless its something like a 180amp esc its not safe to use 6s in a boat. Amp draws go out the window in boats compared with cars.
                              that's why boat ESC's are harder to find, and they are much more expensive, then say an 80A car esc.

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