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  • Marinetechal
    Junior Member
    • Jan 2012
    • 26

    #1

    Swordfish 240HV esc receiver lead

    Hi guys,

    I have always wanted to know why the receiver signal lead needs to have the red power when the 240HV needs an external BEC. I would have thought it would only need 2 wires to carry the signal commands. Why I am asking is that I have had 3 x Swordfish esc (2 x 200 and 1 x 240)
    all of them I have had issues with. On the 200amp esc I ran with the internal bec but on the 240 I naturally am running an external BEC.
    My latest problem being with the 240, nearly destroyed my Pursuit because after giving it full throttle it then dropped to and stuck on 50% throttle with no steering, happened twice with completely different 2.4ghz radio systems (Flysky/HK 3CH and Spektrum TX6i).
    I am running with Leopard 4082 1600kv, X645, 6s 5000mah 30c Turnigy, Swordfish 240HV esc, 2s 1000mah receiver battery through a Hifei ubec voltage limiter, Spektrum TX6i/AR6210 ( also tried Flysky/HK 3ch ) and a Hitec
    Swordfish parameter settings:- LVC 6S/ 2.5V, Brake-off, Timing-auto, Cutoff-hard, Start- standard, PWM-8kHz

    Hope someone may have some answer as I'm not impressed with Swordfish products at the momment....
  • oscarel
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Dec 2009
    • 2127

    #2
    If you had no steering it sounds like the receiver lost power. Did you set the failsafe on the Flysky? Just fyi, LVC of 2.5V per cell isn't good, lipos will be damaged if they go below 3.0V.

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    • Marinetechal
      Junior Member
      • Jan 2012
      • 26

      #3
      Originally posted by oscarel
      If you had no steering it sounds like the receiver lost power. Did you set the failsafe on the Flysky? Just fyi, LVC of 2.5V per cell isn't good, lipos will be damaged if they go below 3.0V.
      LVC is not a concern as I have Quanum Telemetry with 1st low voltage set at 3.4v and second alarm at 3.2v. I set LVC low because I thought it might be affecting the output of esc if it detects voltage spikes. I didn't think I had failsafe on my Flysky, don't forget I did mention I had identical problem with 2 complete different radio systems.

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      • Mel279
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2008
        • 857

        #4
        Flysky and HK radio system are the same, only different brand, its should have a fail safe, you can test it by switch off the tx and see if it still running, if not, its ok but if it runs, probably you need to bind it properly as you would have problem controlling your boat, this happen to my friend and also check the antenna wire as this tend to break off and also contributed to this issue.
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        • ray schrauwen
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Apr 2007
          • 9472

          #5
          When you set failsafe in these Flysky radios, THEN, it is bound to one model only. If you don't set the failsafe for every single model, then any rx will work on any model.

          Hard to read chinglish at times but, thats what I get fron that part of the menu.
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          • Marinetechal
            Junior Member
            • Jan 2012
            • 26

            #6
            Originally posted by ray schrauwen
            When you set failsafe in these Flysky radios, THEN, it is bound to one model only. If you don't set the failsafe for every single model, then any rx will work on any model.

            Hard to read chinglish at times but, thats what I get fron that part of the menu.
            Thanks for that Ray, will reset and try once I have repaired the Pursuit

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            • Marinetechal
              Junior Member
              • Jan 2012
              • 26

              #7
              Originally posted by Mel279
              Flysky and HK radio system are the same, only different brand, its should have a fail safe, you can test it by switch off the tx and see if it still running, if not, its ok but if it runs, probably you need to bind it properly as you would have problem controlling your boat, this happen to my friend and also check the antenna wire as this tend to break off and also contributed to this issue.
              I had identical problem with two entirely different radio systems tx and rx, I rebound my Flysky ( throttle stuck, no steering) removed rx and fitted a 6ch HK speckrum rx and bound it to my DX6i (throttle stuck, no steering, then my boat ran into rocks at 60kph) PLEASE can someone explain why I am having this issue, is it the Swordfish 240.

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              • oscarel
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Dec 2009
                • 2127

                #8
                How long were you running when this happened? What type of receiver batteries are you using? Unless you have another esc to test with not sure anyone can tell you the swordfish is at fault. No steering to me means loss of receiver power or loss of signal.

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                • Marinetechal
                  Junior Member
                  • Jan 2012
                  • 26

                  #9
                  Originally posted by oscarel
                  How long were you running when this happened? What type of receiver batteries are you using? Unless you have another esc to test with not sure anyone can tell you the swordfish is at fault. No steering to me means loss of receiver power or loss of signal.
                  Check out my link and it will show you what happened...


                  Brand new 2s 1000mah Turnigy through a Hifei UBEC voltage limiter and yes I do have a T180 Seaking esc that is super reliable to go back to. My boat never plays up with the T180 but everytime I fit a swordfish I have dramas. I thought upgrading to a 240HV I would have no issues. My gut tells me to ditch the swordfish esc and stay with the T180. No-one has answered my original question.... why is the red wire in the RX lead of a 240HV esc ( IS IT TO POWER UP THE ESC WHEN CONNECTED TO THE USB LINKER?) it certainly not needed for any other reason.

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                  • ray schrauwen
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 9472

                    #10
                    What was the "BEEP" on the radio just before it went ashore?
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                    • Marinetechal
                      Junior Member
                      • Jan 2012
                      • 26

                      #11
                      Originally posted by ray schrauwen
                      What was the "BEEP" on the radio just before it went ashore?
                      My Quatum telemetry hitting 3.4 volts on one of the cells, it sometimes does that when the pack isn't warm enough ( does it with the T180 with no issues )

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                      • oscarel
                        Fast Electric Addict!
                        • Dec 2009
                        • 2127

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Marinetechal
                        Check out my link and it will show you what happened...


                        Brand new 2s 1000mah Turnigy through a Hifei UBEC voltage limiter and yes I do have a T180 Seaking esc that is super reliable to go back to. My boat never plays up with the T180 but everytime I fit a swordfish I have dramas. I thought upgrading to a 240HV I would have no issues. My gut tells me to ditch the swordfish esc and stay with the T180. No-one has answered my original question.... why is the red wire in the RX lead of a 240HV esc ( IS IT TO POWER UP THE ESC WHEN CONNECTED TO THE USB LINKER?) it certainly not needed for any other reason.
                        http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/...?35937-s-f-240

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                        • Marinetechal
                          Junior Member
                          • Jan 2012
                          • 26

                          #13
                          ok, thanks. I will repair boat, remove Hifei voltage limiter and run with a straight 6 volt receiver battery pack, rebind and reset failsafe on Flysky rx, recheck settings on esc via laptop, run with 2 x 3s 5000 mah 40c packs in series to 6s and hope for the best...might be a few weeks but I will let you know. Thanks again for your advise all.

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                          • oscarel
                            Fast Electric Addict!
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 2127

                            #14
                            Did you verify the failsafe settings after you set them?? Turn off the transmitter and see what happens with everything else still powered up. You can do that now without the boat.

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                            • Marinetechal
                              Junior Member
                              • Jan 2012
                              • 26

                              #15
                              Originally posted by oscarel
                              Did you verify the failsafe settings after you set them?? Turn off the transmitter and see what happens with everything else still powered up. You can do that now without the boat.
                              I will check that tonight and let you know...

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