Castle Creations Pheonix Ice 100

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  • BakedMopar
    No Mo Slipah
    • Sep 2009
    • 1679

    #1

    Castle Creations Pheonix Ice 100

    Anybody use these in their boat. Pro and Cons please.



    Thnaks,
    George
    If all of your wishes are granted, many of your dreams will be destroyed!
  • Ub Hauled
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Aug 2007
    • 3031

    #2
    If you can wait to buy, there is a Hydra version of the ICE coming out sometime in the future.
    I have not used one of the Regular ICE ESCs but I know people who have and they are excellent (as per them).
    :::::::::::::::. It's NEVER fast enough! .:::::::::::::::

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    • RCprince
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Jul 2007
      • 1637

      #3
      It looks like a killer, I held one in my hands and I didn't want to let it go, can't wait for water-cooling.
      Samuel Johnson - “An injustice anywhere is an injustice everywhere.” William Cooper "listen to everything, read everything, and believe nothing unless you can prove it in your own research!"

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      • BakedMopar
        No Mo Slipah
        • Sep 2009
        • 1679

        #4
        I thought I read something about a hydra version. I just hope the price don't go sky rocket. That would be the deciding factor.
        If all of your wishes are granted, many of your dreams will be destroyed!

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        • Steven Vaccaro
          Administrator
          • Apr 2007
          • 8723

          #5
          I've been playing with one. It needs a pistix. But has lots of cool options and logging features.
          Steven Vaccaro

          Where Racing on a Budget is a Reality!

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          • sailr
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Nov 2007
            • 6927

            #6
            There is no logical reason why adding cooling to the ICE should raise the price more than $20-30.
            Mini Cat Racing USA
            www.minicatracingusa.com

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            • Ub Hauled
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Aug 2007
              • 3031

              #7
              More then anything I want a pistol compatible one, the cooling would be very cool...
              I think they can buffer the cost somehow, it would be nice if they could just drill the
              existing cooling and stick a tube in there, that should not add anything to the price tag.
              :::::::::::::::. It's NEVER fast enough! .:::::::::::::::

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              • AndyKunz
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Sep 2008
                • 1437

                #8
                Originally posted by Ub Hauled
                More then anything I want a pistol compatible one, the cooling would be very cool...
                That's what the PiStix is for.

                The ICE controls are real popular here. You can use them to verify exactly what the model needs (thanks to the data logging) and then use an appropriate, less-expensive control.

                Andy
                Spektrum Development Team

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                • Ub Hauled
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Aug 2007
                  • 3031

                  #9
                  Originally posted by AndyKunz
                  That's what the PiStix is for.
                  I know Andy, I own one.
                  The little contraption is great, I use it with a Phoenix 110HV
                  but I like having less things to break down in a system,
                  I' prefer running w/o a PiStix if possible.
                  :::::::::::::::. It's NEVER fast enough! .:::::::::::::::

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                  • Steven Vaccaro
                    Administrator
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 8723

                    #10
                    I would "ASSume" that if there was not a hydra ice prototype at the Chicago Hobby Show, there wont be one for a while. Anyone go by the castle booth?
                    Steven Vaccaro

                    Where Racing on a Budget is a Reality!

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                    • BakedMopar
                      No Mo Slipah
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 1679

                      #11
                      I was going to try one beacuse of it's logging features and product support. It around the same price compared to a knock off and a seperate logger. I know it wouldn't be much for castle to add on cooling, but sometimes when things become a specialty item prices go up.
                      If all of your wishes are granted, many of your dreams will be destroyed!

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                      • Rumdog
                        Fast Electric Addict!
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 6453

                        #12
                        has anyone ranit in a boat without cooling? it was made to run in confined spaces, hence the name

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                        • BakedMopar
                          No Mo Slipah
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 1679

                          #13
                          Okay I have purchased one of these and have been testing it out. I am running it in a SuperVee27 with a Feigao 12L, X637 prop, 4s 5000 20C Lipos. I have been having problems with it cutting out at WOT. I have played with different settings ( timing, current limiter, PWM) and I still can't figure it out. I even tried a different receiver and Pistix to eliminate tose factors. Here is a couple of log files. I don't actually know how to comprehend some of the information like voltage ripple. First one is on 4s1p and the second one is 6s1p.

                          George
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                          • sailr
                            Fast Electric Addict!
                            • Nov 2007
                            • 6927

                            #14
                            The first chart looks like the min. voltage goes slightly below the cutoff voltage. Where do you have that set? That would cause it to cut out for sure. Something is really sucking the battery down HARD. The second chart, for 6S gets close again.

                            Originally posted by BakedMopar
                            Okay I have purchased one of these and have been testing it out. I am running it in a SuperVee27 with a Feigao 12L, X637 prop, 4s 5000 20C Lipos. I have been having problems with it cutting out at WOT. I have played with different settings ( timing, current limiter, PWM) and I still can't figure it out. I even tried a different receiver and Pistix to eliminate tose factors. Here is a couple of log files. I don't actually know how to comprehend some of the information like voltage ripple. First one is on 4s1p and the second one is 6s1p.

                            George
                            Mini Cat Racing USA
                            www.minicatracingusa.com

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                            • BakedMopar
                              No Mo Slipah
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 1679

                              #15
                              Lipo cutoffs are set at 3.0v per cell. Here is another one. This one ran the best with only a few cuts. If you look closely the it falls off even with the throttle on and voltage still decent.
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