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  • gfm1135
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2012
    • 170

    #1

    Why a power supply

    Can someone explain why utilizing a power supply and a DC charger is preferred over a charger that has internal power supply AC DC.
    thanks
  • Heaving Earth
    Banned
    • Jun 2012
    • 1877

    #2
    Because you can get more watts out of a seperate supply

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    • gfm1135
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2012
      • 170

      #3
      And more watts = faster charge times?

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      • Heaving Earth
        Banned
        • Jun 2012
        • 1877

        #4
        Yeah. It's either Amps or watts, I can't remember but either way yes faster charge times

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        • properchopper
          rcgoatbuild@snotmail.com
          • Apr 2007
          • 6968

          #5
          Mr. Earth is correct - the more power the internal charging circuit of your charger gets supplied, the faster you can charge or the more batteries you can charge simultaneously. For example, charging two 5000mah packs at 2C at the same time would require a stable 20 amps being supplied to the charging circuit. In the picture, the small red power supply is 25A and would have to be built into the charger to have an integrated, all-in-one unit to accomplish this. It would end up being a rather large piece. Many racers race multiple classes in a day and require running several chargers at one time so a high capacity power supply can run several chargers at once (like Big Bertha in the picture).

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          It's much more financially feasable to have one nice big power supply with tons of headroom than to have an integrated unit if you need good charging power 'tho this might not be an issue for casual sport running.
          2008 NAMBA P-Mono & P-Offshore Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder; '15 P-Cat, P-Ltd Cat 2-Lap
          2009/2010 NAMBA P-Sport Hydro Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder, '13 SCSTA P-Ltd Cat High Points
          '11 NAMBA [P-Ltd] : Mono, Offshore, OPC, Sport Hydro; '06 LSO, '12,'13,'14 P Ltd Cat /Mono

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          • gfm1135
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2012
            • 170

            #6
            Thanks for the info

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            • jj2003
              HIGH VOLTAGE ADDICT!
              • May 2011
              • 1501

              #7
              Hey Prop,

              What's Big Bertha's brand and where'd you pick her up? I'm currently using a 24v setup with 1150 amps powering a tp 1430 and a 610c. I want to add two more but I think I need two more power supplies.

              Originally posted by properchopper
              Mr. Earth is correct - the more power the internal charging circuit of your charger gets supplied, the faster you can charge or the more batteries you can charge simultaneously. For example, charging two 5000mah packs at 2C at the same time would require a stable 20 amps being supplied to the charging circuit. In the picture, the small red power supply is 25A and would have to be built into the charger to have an integrated, all-in-one unit to accomplish this. It would end up being a rather large piece. Many racers race multiple classes in a day and require running several chargers at one time so a high capacity power supply can run several chargers at once (like Big Bertha in the picture).

              [ATTACH=CONFIG]95064[/ATTACH]

              It's much more financially feasable to have one nice big power supply with tons of headroom than to have an integrated unit if you need good charging power 'tho this might not be an issue for casual sport running.
              "If guns cause crime, all of mine are defective"
              45"Speedfreek
              , Fightercat #068 ​, MyYoutube Vids

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              • properchopper
                rcgoatbuild@snotmail.com
                • Apr 2007
                • 6968

                #8
                Originally posted by jj2003
                Hey Prop,

                What's Big Bertha's brand and where'd you pick her up? I'm currently using a 24v setup with 1150 amps powering a tp 1430 and a 610c. I want to add two more but I think I need two more power supplies.
                It's an Astron RM 50-M from Astron Corp in Irvine CA. I picked it up several years ago at Winter Warmups from a racer who had a few he was selling for $65 ea.. Couldn't resist. I installed the dual input banana plug-ins myself. Been happy ever since (except for the hernia from moving it)

                EDIT : I cautiously ( living not far from West Hollywood "Boys Town") googled ASTRON and found this :



                Likely a King's ransom for a new one 'tho
                Last edited by properchopper; 03-10-2013, 10:59 PM.
                2008 NAMBA P-Mono & P-Offshore Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder; '15 P-Cat, P-Ltd Cat 2-Lap
                2009/2010 NAMBA P-Sport Hydro Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder, '13 SCSTA P-Ltd Cat High Points
                '11 NAMBA [P-Ltd] : Mono, Offshore, OPC, Sport Hydro; '06 LSO, '12,'13,'14 P Ltd Cat /Mono

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                • Heaving Earth
                  Banned
                  • Jun 2012
                  • 1877

                  #9
                  That sucker looks about as fun as lugging around my Marshall 9000! 3 power transformers in that sucker made it a boat anchor ImageUploadedByTapatalk1362971863.233397.jpg

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                  • properchopper
                    rcgoatbuild@snotmail.com
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 6968

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Heaving Earth
                    That sucker looks about as fun as lugging around my Marshall 9000! 3 power transformers in that sucker made it a boat anchor [ATTACH]95088[/ATTACH]
                    Yeah, but does yours do this ?

                    2008 NAMBA P-Mono & P-Offshore Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder; '15 P-Cat, P-Ltd Cat 2-Lap
                    2009/2010 NAMBA P-Sport Hydro Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder, '13 SCSTA P-Ltd Cat High Points
                    '11 NAMBA [P-Ltd] : Mono, Offshore, OPC, Sport Hydro; '06 LSO, '12,'13,'14 P Ltd Cat /Mono

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                    • Heaving Earth
                      Banned
                      • Jun 2012
                      • 1877

                      #11
                      Lol one of my all time favs

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                      • NativePaul
                        Greased Weasel
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 2761

                        #12
                        Originally posted by jj2003
                        I'm currently using a 24v setup with 1150 amps but I think I need two more power supplies.
                        You have a 27.6KW power supply and need 2 more, what the hell are you charging? Your 1:1 scale delorean time machine with electric hover conversion? Here's a tip don't bother with the chargers, use it once from storage voltage to get to the future and get a Mr Fusion to supply all your power needs.
                        Paul Upton-Taylor, Greased Weasel Racing.

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                        • fjelling
                          Member
                          • Jan 2013
                          • 53

                          #13
                          I bet my nutsack that he mean 1150 watts

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                          • jj2003
                            HIGH VOLTAGE ADDICT!
                            • May 2011
                            • 1501

                            #14
                            Originally posted by fjelling
                            I bet my nutsack that he mean 1150 watts
                            You would be correct Hit reply before I realized what I typed
                            "If guns cause crime, all of mine are defective"
                            45"Speedfreek
                            , Fightercat #068 ​, MyYoutube Vids

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                            • jj2003
                              HIGH VOLTAGE ADDICT!
                              • May 2011
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by NativePaul
                              You have a 27.6KW power supply and need 2 more, what the hell are you charging? Your 1:1 scale delorean time machine with electric hover conversion? Here's a tip don't bother with the chargers, use it once from storage voltage to get to the future and get a Mr Fusion to supply all your power needs.
                              Caught it to late Nativepaul I meant watts, not amps. Now my jigawatt charger in the garage is another story.....
                              "If guns cause crime, all of mine are defective"
                              45"Speedfreek
                              , Fightercat #068 ​, MyYoutube Vids

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