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  • mikiek
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2017
    • 191

    #1

    LiPo Test

    I smoked some hardware by connecting batteries with the wrong harness. They were 6S and I plugged them into the Zelos 36 OOB harness. After a few snap, crackle, pops and some smoke I took a look at what was left. Besides the components, the cable on one of the batteries was partially melted. The other battery has no visual signs of damage.

    So I'm wondering how to tell if the 2nd battery is still good. Is a test just as simple as a volt meter? Do I risk plugging it in to my smart charger and get the stats from that?
    May your batteries never fail you...

    Mike
  • boatsrnew2me
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2016
    • 476

    #2
    i would check it with a volt meter ,if it only has some cable damage it may in fact be ok . only way to know is to test it . if the lipo had suffered any real damage it would have puffed up right away .
    volantex vector pro ,proboat veles 29 , traxxas spartan, hobbyking/tfl pursuit ,ft009 with rescue rigging

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    • Fluid
      Fast and Furious
      • Apr 2007
      • 8012

      #3
      Things which could have happened include tabs becoming unsoldered, which can often be determined by a total voltage check, or the use of a cell checker. You do have one of the latter, right?




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      • mikiek
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2017
        • 191

        #4
        Yes Fluid - I do. It's part of the charger. I'm a little nervous about plugging a potentially damaged battery into it. The way my luck has been going I would end up frying that. I'll find my volt meter and try that first.

        The LiPo is not puffed. If it's just the cable do you cut off the old and replace? If yes, do you solder the new cables or use an electrical connector? If solder, I assume you would not use a resistance solderer for this application?

        I know these are elementary questions but I still ranked in the noob column. I appreciate all comments. I'm learning (the hard way )
        May your batteries never fail you...

        Mike

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        • boatsrnew2me
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2016
          • 476

          #5
          can you post a picture of said lipo? that would be of great help
          volantex vector pro ,proboat veles 29 , traxxas spartan, hobbyking/tfl pursuit ,ft009 with rescue rigging

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          • srislash
            Not there yet
            • Mar 2011
            • 7673

            #6
            You will need a decent (80 watt) solder iron for the connectors or any wire to be soldered. I am wondering where the battery lead was damaged and if maybe you can solder the connector on at that point. First of course is to do the cell check. A small one such as Fluid linked is REALLY handy in the field box/bag.

            Shawn

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            • mikiek
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2017
              • 191

              #7
              Thanks for asking. That made me do a closer inspection of the "melted" insulation. Turns out it wasn't the insulation at all. It was the "Do Not Pull" label that went FUBAR. Maybe some good news.

              Here's a few pix - it's hard to get good angles. The 2 batteries on the left were in the boat when I smoked it. The battery on the right is new, never used, same brand.

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              I'm still trying to dig up my volt meter.
              May your batteries never fail you...

              Mike

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              • TheShaughnessy
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Mar 2011
                • 1431

                #8
                cant really see anything from that pic
                here is a video i made a while back when i came across a similar situation. I TAKE NO RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR INJURIES ATTEMPT AT YOUR OWN DISCRETION. OUT SIDE ON CONCRETE IS THE BEST PLACE TO DO THIS.

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                • Mxkid261
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2015
                  • 734

                  #9
                  Those look alright to me. If they were mine I would just check them with my cell checker. If they look good on that I would probably run them through a cycle on the charger, outside obviously. If they balance out and don't puff I'd say your good to go.

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                  • mikiek
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2017
                    • 191

                    #10
                    Mxkid261 - my cell checker is a function of the charger. That's why I've been asking these questions first. I don't want to risk blowing a $200 charger by plugging in a damaged battery. I'm not sure if it would, but given the fiascos I seem to keep having I'd like to be reasonably sure it'll be OK.
                    May your batteries never fail you...

                    Mike

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                    • srislash
                      Not there yet
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 7673

                      #11
                      They are most likely just fine. It is REAL hard to reverse current from a battery once she be a flowin'. I thought maybe you did that when you said you melted the leads but they really do look fine. I think you just really over exerted the ESC's..

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                      • mikiek
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2017
                        • 191

                        #12
                        srislash - I believe you are right. I still haven't found the volt meter, but I did plug the batteries into one of those little tester units and the numbers look OK for both. So at least thru the balancer cable things are good. A little bit of good news

                        I'll plug them into the charger in the morning when I can watch them and set it for storage mode. I guess that would tell me if the leads are good.
                        May your batteries never fail you...

                        Mike

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                        • Mxkid261
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2015
                          • 734

                          #13
                          You should invest in a small handheld cell checker they're pretty convenient. I always have a handful laying around. You can get a 4 pack of cheapies on amazon for $11 or a nicer one like Fluids link. I like the cheap ones with the alarm, a couple of my boats I don't run low voltage cutoff (LVC) so I rely on it.

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                          • TheShaughnessy
                            Fast Electric Addict!
                            • Mar 2011
                            • 1431

                            #14
                            if you didn't fry the balance wires then that means all the tabs are still connected, which would lead me to conclude that the main leads are fine.

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                            • mikiek
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2017
                              • 191

                              #15
                              I do have one of the cell checkers. That's what I used to first test the batteries yesterday. I went ahead and put them on the charger today. It did not complain and I was able to put the batteries in storage mode.

                              What tabs are you referring to?
                              May your batteries never fail you...

                              Mike

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