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  • tlandauer
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Apr 2011
    • 5666

    #1

    Quick Question about discharging Lipo

    I have never had to discharge a lipo before, but I had a set of Dinogy ( 4s, 5000mah, 65c) charged up but looks like no time to run the boat since I am going on a road trip, I use Duratrax Ice Charger with external balancer: http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXMGS7&P=SM
    How much discharge should I set? I know the storage voltage, just not sure what is a good discharge current rate.
    Thanks in advance.
    Too many boats, not enough time...
  • Fluid
    Fast and Furious
    • Apr 2007
    • 8012

    #2
    No limit, my discharger pulls about 15 amps.
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    • tlandauer
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Apr 2011
      • 5666

      #3
      Fluid,
      Thanks for the advice!
      Too many boats, not enough time...

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      • J.W. Pepper

        #4
        Tim,
        I use home made dischargers that I originally made to discharge my NiMH packs all the way before re-charging. They're automotive light bulbs wired to a Trax power connector, everything I have use's them.

        I use this device... http://www.electrifly.com/miscproducts/gpmm3210.html - plugged into the balance tap with the discharger on the main lead to keep the pack balanced and to monitor voltage's. I was told the recommended storage voltage = 3.7v/cell. Please correct me if I'm wrong on that number, I'm still in the learning process about LiPo's.



        Originally posted by tlandauer
        I have never had to discharge a lipo before, but I had a set of Dinogy ( 4s, 5000mah, 65c) charged up but looks like no time to run the boat since I am going on a road trip, I use Duratrax Ice Charger with external balancer: http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXMGS7&P=SM
        How much discharge should I set? I know the storage voltage, just not sure what is a good discharge current rate.
        Thanks in advance.

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        • stadiumyamaha
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Apr 2011
          • 1284

          #5
          I just use jumper wire with alligator clips with a h4 12v to discharge. Works great and much faster than the charger will do.
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          • tlandauer
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Apr 2011
            • 5666

            #6
            Originally posted by J.W. Pepper
            Tim,
            I use home made dischargers that I originally made to discharge my NiMH packs all the way before re-charging. They're automotive light bulbs wired to a Trax power connector, everything I have use's them.

            I use this device... http://www.electrifly.com/miscproducts/gpmm3210.html - plugged into the balance tap with the discharger on the main lead to keep the pack balanced and to monitor voltage's. I was told the recommended storage voltage = 3.7v/cell. Please correct me if I'm wrong on that number, I'm still in the learning process about LiPo's.
            I personally store my lipo between 3.7-3.8v/cell. I also use this lipo monitoring device. It's just that I have not used the discharge feature on my charger and was wondering how much I should set. I see that you discharge your NiMH packs before re-charging, I wish I were as meticulous as you are with my NiMH.
            Too many boats, not enough time...

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            • tlandauer
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Apr 2011
              • 5666

              #7
              Originally posted by stadiumyamaha
              I just use jumper wire with alligator clips with a h4 12v to discharge. Works great and much faster than the charger will do.
              please don't laugh: what is h4? I feel very stupid at this moment, any chance you can post a picture?
              One thing I realized was that my charger was really hot, both fans were working over time and I ended up using cold-wet towel to chill the heat sink! , I was discharging 4s, 5000mah lipo at 1C .
              about the heat issue on the chargers.
              Last edited by tlandauer; 07-26-2013, 02:22 AM.
              Too many boats, not enough time...

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              • J.W. Pepper

                #8
                I see that you discharge your NiMH packs before re-charging...
                For a couple days till there's nothing left in them

                With new packs, I discharge all the way, then charge up all the way a couple times before using them. You'de be amazed at how much of a diff it makes for conditioning the pack to take a proper charge consistanly & long life too.

                And only charge at 1.5A, no safety timer, no trickle, I don't care if it takes longer. It's safer & charges the batteries better. That's why all my packs are still in perfect condition.

                I've got 4x associated packs, the 3600's goto precisely 3900mAh & 4200's that goto 4600mAh each & everytime. I got 'em for a DuraTrax Evader EXT2 that I used to own - first R/C truck. Sold that rig long time ago, tried selling them to the buyer but no luck.

                I used them with my Trax Blast boat when I first got it, but after the BL upgrade (3000Kv BLM) + the weight of the batts, only got bout 5~6mins runtime before performance fell off. That's when I finally made the decision to goto LiPo's.

                While back I got a pair of Traxxas 5000mAh humps for my pede because they're the only one's I could find that would handle the BL setup that I put in it. With Onyx 5700mAh 2S it's faster than 8.4v and will do wheelie's all day no prob, go figure.

                Add a Duratrax 8.4v 4600mAh DTX series hump pack to that collection.

                But now that I gone to LiPo's i don't need them, and not having much luck selling them either. What, am I supposed to just throw them away??

                Worst of all, last summer I bought 6x Gens Ace 5000mAh hump packs for the AQ WC I had - that's when I should have got my 1st 3S's. At least I can still use them with the Rio till I come up with an effective 3S LiPo solution.



                Originally posted by tlandauer
                I personally store my lipo between 3.7-3.8v/cell. I also use this lipo monitoring device. It's just that I have not used the discharge feature on my charger and was wondering how much I should set. I see that you discharge your NiMH packs before re-charging, I wish I were as meticulous as you are with my NiMH.

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                • Peter A
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Sep 2012
                  • 1486

                  #9
                  H4 is a halogen headlight bulb, good for see the road at night!

                  Originally posted by tlandauer
                  please don't laugh: what is h4? I feel very stupid at this moment, any chance you can post a picture?
                  One thing I realized was that my charger was really hot, both fans were working over time and I ended up using cold-wet towel to chill the heat sink! , I was discharging 4s, 5000mah lipo at 1C .
                  about the heat issue on the chargers.
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                  2016 SUHA Q Sport Hydro Hi Points Champion.
                  BOPMPBC Open Mono, Open Electric Champion.

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                  • tlandauer
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 5666

                    #10
                    Originally posted by peter a
                    h4 is a halogen headlight bulb, good for see the road at night!
                    I need that in my brain!!!!
                    Too many boats, not enough time...

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                    • Cooper
                      Fast Electric Addict!
                      • Jan 2011
                      • 1141

                      #11
                      Personally I would get a quality lipo charger that has storage setting (discharge). For what it's worth the money spent on quality batteries is gone to waste if not using a quality charger that will stop or let you know if there is a problem, will prevent lipo damage.

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                      • tlandauer
                        Fast Electric Addict!
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 5666

                        #12
                        Yeah, I agree: It should be on my agenda. My Duratrax ICE have proven to be really good ones and I like the manual, straight forward, not like some of the more recent ones that you have a looped manual---keep pressing one button till you get it right. In fact that is why I bought four of them for a song when they were discontinued. But the Storage Setting is very useful and I have many more packs of batteries to deal with now.
                        Thanks! Any brand you would suggest?
                        Too many boats, not enough time...

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                        • 785boats
                          Wet Track Racing
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 3169

                          #13
                          I don't have one of these but I'm thinking of getting one. Sounds like a handy little unit. There is also a 50W discharge version available.
                          But, read the reviews at the bottom of the page.

                          3 IN 1 Battery Meter/Balancer/Discharger LCD Display 150W Discharge from manufacturer , in category Lithium Polymer Battery ( Li-Poly, LIPB) Chargers, Battery Chargers & Battery Accessories.
                          See the danger. THEN DO IT ANYWAY!!!
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                          • NativePaul
                            Greased Weasel
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 2759

                            #14
                            Originally posted by J.W. Pepper
                            [COLOR="#0000CD"]But now that I gone to LiPo's i don't need them, and not having much luck selling them either. What, am I supposed to just throw them away?
                            No don't throw them away, they may be crap compared to LiPo but they are fab compared to the industrial NiMh in your cordless drill, swap the cells over and turbocharge your drill, you get more torque, more speed and more runtime with hobby grade cells in your drill battery case.
                            Paul Upton-Taylor, Greased Weasel Racing.

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                            • tlandauer
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • Apr 2011
                              • 5666

                              #15
                              Originally posted by 785boats
                              I don't have one of these but I'm thinking of getting one. Sounds like a handy little unit. There is also a 50W discharge version available.
                              But, read the reviews at the bottom of the page.

                              http://www.himodel.com/electric/3_IN...Discharge.html
                              Thanks for the link! Most interesting!
                              Too many boats, not enough time...

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