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  • BosBoat
    Junior Member
    • Jun 2009
    • 2

    #1

    New Batt Technology?

    Has anyone heard of LinPoly battery technology? I came across this webpage/video: http://www.caleb-battery.com/products.html

    The site mentions nanotechnology (similar to Turnigy??).

    Could this mean that a lighter and safer lipo battery is on the horizon?

    I've been waiting on the sidelines still using nimh and hoping for a lipo type battery without the safety issues.
  • osprey21
    Senior Member
    • May 2010
    • 693

    #2
    I think these guys are into Aerospace and .mil stuff, so the "horizon" for rc interests may be a loooong way out.

    Have you seen this?

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    • don ferrette
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Aug 2010
      • 1093

      #3
      Originally posted by osprey21
      I think these guys are into Aerospace and .mil stuff, so the "horizon" for rc interests may be a loooong way out.

      Have you seen this?

      BUT .... what's THE hottest thing in the military right now??

      Remote control drones. It might not be as far off as you think.
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      • raptor347
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Jul 2007
        • 1089

        #4
        The battery development doesn't carry over as well you might think. The problem is the drone batteries have very different performance requirements. Where we hobbyists want high discharge rate, the UAV's need maximum energy density. The internal structure and chemistry of the cells differs to reach the best end product for the application. The really good UAV batteries are hard pressed to deliver much over 2C discharge currents.

        I've been involved with SUAV projects for the last 12 years. I've gotten to build parts for some really cool projects and work with some great people.
        Brian "Snowman" Buaas
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        • BosBoat
          Junior Member
          • Jun 2009
          • 2

          #5
          Originally posted by osprey21
          I think these guys are into Aerospace and .mil stuff, so the "horizon" for rc interests may be a loooong way out.

          Have you seen this?

          Yes, The utube video is what made me track down the web site. Maybe this technology is still a long way off from from rc use, but it gives you hope that at some point a lipo type battery could be made safer.

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          • NativePaul
            Greased Weasel
            • Feb 2008
            • 2761

            #6
            Have you considered LiFePo4 (A123)? You wouldn't have to wait as both technology has been out and marketed for model use for years, they offer safety duribility and longevity benefits over LiPo and while not packing the energy or power density of current top end LiPo they are a big improvement in both over previous Nickle based technology.
            Paul Upton-Taylor, Greased Weasel Racing.

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            • sailr
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Nov 2007
              • 6927

              #7
              LiFE batteries are ill-suited for high amp draw situations such in FE boats. They will NOT support instant demand for high current and will draw down below cutoff temporarily. This has been verified by a friend of mine in China who is a battery chemical engineer in China's largest battery factory, owned by the Chinese military.
              Mini Cat Racing USA
              www.minicatracingusa.com

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              • sailr
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Nov 2007
                • 6927

                #8
                This is the same selling point as LiFE batteries. Nothing new here.

                Originally posted by don ferrette
                BUT .... what's THE hottest thing in the military right now??

                Remote control drones. It might not be as far off as you think.
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                www.minicatracingusa.com

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                • sailr
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 6927

                  #9
                  "nanotechnology" is a catchall term meaning "using extremely small particles (nano". It has nothing to do with Turnigy, etc. ALL of the high C rated batteries use nanotechnology. Leave it to Hobbyking to try to make something old or established sound new!

                  Originally posted by BosBoat
                  Has anyone heard of LinPoly battery technology? I came across this webpage/video: http://www.caleb-battery.com/products.html

                  The site mentions nanotechnology (similar to Turnigy??).

                  Could this mean that a lighter and safer lipo battery is on the horizon?

                  I've been waiting on the sidelines still using nimh and hoping for a lipo type battery without the safety issues.
                  Mini Cat Racing USA
                  www.minicatracingusa.com

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                  • epsonjackson
                    Junior Member
                    • May 2011
                    • 10

                    #10
                    looks good if this new tech is legit
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                    • TheShaughnessy
                      Fast Electric Addict!
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 1431

                      #11
                      Originally posted by sailr
                      "nanotechnology" is a catchall term meaning "using extremely small particles (nano". It has nothing to do with Turnigy, etc. ALL of the high C rated batteries use nanotechnology. Leave it to Hobbyking to try to make something old or established sound new!
                      that is just about all marketing.

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                      • NativePaul
                        Greased Weasel
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 2761

                        #12
                        I have several sets of A123 LiFePo4 cells which have been used for FE use only, and while they are not as good as LiPo in absolute terms due to the higher weight, lower starting voltage, and greater voltage drop under load, they do work fine for FE, while they do drop voltage under load to an extent that would kill a LiPo they are 30C rated and cope with it well, the voltage can easily be solved by adding an extra cell our race rules until recently have been 2s1p LiPo or 3s2p A123 for mono1 and hydro1 and 4s1p LiPo or 5s2pA123 for mono2 and Hydro2 and we have had successful racers running both technologies. While the weight is about 50% greater than LiPo its not prohibitive, still being well under that of NiMh that we used for years.
                        Paul Upton-Taylor, Greased Weasel Racing.

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