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  • dasboata
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Dec 2010
    • 3152

    #1

    Sparking

    Is there a way to minimize the sparking when I connect my Lipos it is melting the connectors is this normal !!! thanks Chris
  • D. Newland
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Dec 2007
    • 1022

    #2
    What voltage, Chris? The higher voltage stuff really pops. Typically, 4S won't cause any damage.

    You can set up a sacraficial connection with a smaller/cheaper connector. Or, It could be as simple as having 2 short, solid 8 ga wire that you temporarily place in each connector and touch together, taking the spark hit. Just like you do when you're hot wiring a car.

    Then, plug the connectors together as you typically do.

    The pop is charging the capacitors, so once it pops, you can then plug in normally without any drama.

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    • siberianhusky
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Dec 2009
      • 2187

      #3
      Do a search of anti-spark, there is a diagram of a simple circuit using a 100ohm resistor you connect first to charge the caps. then complete the battery connection. Looks like about a 5 watt that came with mine.
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      • dasboata
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Dec 2010
        • 3152

        #4
        Originally posted by D. Newland
        What voltage, Chris? The higher voltage stuff really pops. Typically, 4S won't cause any damage.

        You can set up a sacraficial connection with a smaller/cheaper connector. Or, It could be as simple as having 2 short, solid 8 ga wire that you temporarily place in each connector and touch together, taking the spark hit. Just like you do when you're hot wiring a car.

        Then, plug the connectors together as you typically do.

        The pop is charging the capacitors, so once it pops, you can then plug in normally without any drama.
        Originally posted by siberianhusky
        Do a search of anti-spark, there is a diagram of a simple circuit using a 100ohm resistor you connect first to charge the caps. then complete the battery connection. Looks like about a 5 watt that came with mine.
        5S I will do a search thanks

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        • mappo
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2010
          • 488

          #5
          Originally posted by dasboata
          Is there a way to minimize the sparking when I connect my Lipos it is melting the connectors is this normal !!! thanks Chris
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          • m4a1usr
            Fast Electric Addict
            • Nov 2009
            • 2038

            #6
            What do you have Chris? I have herds of that kind of stuff. But I need to know what speedo you got. For Castle speedos you need very low resistance anti-spark setups. Like 1 ohm at 5 watts. For some of the others you can go ahead change the component sizes. Just depends on what speedo you got. Arming and the speedo seeing what cell capacity you have plugged in is the key. Give me some more details.

            John
            Change is the one Constant

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            • dasboata
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Dec 2010
              • 3152

              #7
              Originally posted by m4a1usr
              What do you have Chris? I have herds of that kind of stuff. But I need to know what speedo you got. For Castle speedos you need very low resistance anti-spark setups. Like 1 ohm at 5 watts. For some of the others you can go ahead change the component sizes. Just depends on what speedo you got. Arming and the speedo seeing what cell capacity you have plugged in is the key. Give me some more details.

              John
              just a 180 HK they sell here. How about I hook up a switch to charge my caps and the switch would take the load ?

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              • m4a1usr
                Fast Electric Addict
                • Nov 2009
                • 2038

                #8
                I would go with a doubling of the stock capacitance. You probably have three 1000mfd caps rated at 50 volts. Thats my guess. Its what I have on my Turnigy 180's. Add a cap bank. Others have already asked what cell count you are running. If you going to the full 6S rating I would bump up to an Etti high voltage cap bank but using no internal BEC. If your only running 4S (I will not run any of my T180's over that) and you are getting some serious sparking maybe what you have is some bad caps. Wouldnt be the first time. A guy just posted yesterday about receiving a new Castle HV speedo with the wrong caps installed.

                If you need a spark arrestor setup I can hook you up. Some 22 ga wire soldered to a 10 or 20 ohm 2 watt resistor with a small connector for charging. Easy job. Just let me know.

                John
                Change is the one Constant

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                • dasboata
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 3152

                  #9
                  5cell I did mention that <<<not sure I want to go threw that much trouble I just might do the resistor thing thanks guys

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                  • gultch
                    Member
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 63

                    #10
                    so would a 1 ohm at 5 watts work on any speedo example
                    turnigy 180 with 6 caps
                    phoenix ice 160hv
                    hydra 240 lv
                    turnigy 90 amp
                    would u just have to wait a little longer for the caps to charge on some different speedos
                    thanks
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                    • gultch
                      Member
                      • Jan 2011
                      • 63

                      #11
                      or will a 1 ohm at 10 watts work on any speedo thanks
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                      • m4a1usr
                        Fast Electric Addict
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 2038

                        #12
                        Originally posted by gultch
                        so would a 1 ohm at 5 watts work on any speedo example
                        turnigy 180 with 6 caps
                        phoenix ice 160hv
                        hydra 240 lv
                        turnigy 90 amp
                        would u just have to wait a little longer for the caps to charge on some different speedos
                        thanks
                        I wouldnt run a 1 ohm resistor unless its a factory recommendation. It charges very fast and still sparks the bullets. I think Castle Creations is the only one recommending such a low resistor. And thats due to the esc recognizing the correct amount of cells being connected. 1 ohm at 5 watts (a 2 watt will work) is what Joe Ford has recommended. I have been using 10 to 15 ohm resistors lately in 6S and larger esc. 2 watts. Depends on what I find laying around at work.

                        John
                        Change is the one Constant

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                        • bowzr6
                          Junior Member
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 17

                          #13
                          I've been using this set up for my high power systems. I use 2 x 63V 180uF capacitors and EC5 connectors...Anti-Spark built-in.
                          hope this helps
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                          Last edited by bowzr6; 04-25-2011, 12:20 AM.

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                          • Chilli
                            Fast Electric Addict!
                            • Jan 2008
                            • 3070

                            #14
                            Here is one I did Chris. Sometimes I use it. Sometimes I dont. IMO there is no need to permanently wire a resister into your set up. All you do is touch the leads and the capacitors charge in a second. They will hold the charge for a while so just disconnect the resister and plug your pack in. Just another way to do it. Find out what your ECS manufaturer recommends.

                            http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/...spark+arrestor
                            Mike Chirillo
                            www.capitolrcmodelboats.com

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                            • Punisher 67
                              Ignore list member #67
                              • May 2008
                              • 1480

                              #15
                              This should help
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