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  • KillerDave
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2009
    • 370

    #1

    Li-Po repair

    Hi guys,

    I have a Li-Po that seemed to just die on me. It's a 4S vislero 5000mAh unit and cell 3 shows no charge at the tab... well that was until I took it apart and found the tab falling out....

    My question is this...

    Can the tab be refitted into the cell?

    If I put my meter on the remaing tab and the other probe in the place that SHOULD have a tab, I get the same reading as the other cells.....

    It would be great if this can be done...
    HPR C-5009, Riptide48, PaynPak 1/12, Miss Budweiser 1/8 Hydro, Miss Freya (own design 1/8 Hydro), HOR 32, Twin 380 HOR 32, Magin one
  • AndyKunz
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Sep 2008
    • 1437

    #2
    I think you have yourself a 3S 5000 now. That's OK - use it in an 8-cell boat.

    Make sure you have somebody who knows what they're doing re-wire your pack for you, if you're not up to it yourself.

    Andy
    Spektrum Development Team

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    • KillerDave
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2009
      • 370

      #3
      Originally posted by AndyKunz
      I think you have yourself a 3S 5000 now. That's OK - use it in an 8-cell boat.

      Make sure you have somebody who knows what they're doing re-wire your pack for you, if you're not up to it yourself.

      Andy
      I'm OK with the electronics and so on but I have never played with a Li-Po before....

      I will take some pic's to show how it's come apart but I would need to peel back the covering of the cell... Is that ok to do?
      HPR C-5009, Riptide48, PaynPak 1/12, Miss Budweiser 1/8 Hydro, Miss Freya (own design 1/8 Hydro), HOR 32, Twin 380 HOR 32, Magin one

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      • LiPo Power
        DJI Drone Advanced Pilot
        • May 2009
        • 3186

        #4
        I would not play with LiPo bats. Is it worth it, for real? What is so special about the one you would like to fix? If its not done properly this may be a recepy for
        Thereis so many wicked deals on new Hk or used batteries its insane..... Think again...
        Robert




        Originally posted by KillerDave
        I'm OK with the electronics and so on but I have never played with a Li-Po before....

        I will take some pic's to show how it's come apart but I would need to peel back the covering of the cell... Is that ok to do?
        DJI Drone Advanced Pilot
        Canada

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        • CornelP
          Senior Member
          • May 2009
          • 745

          #5
          Ha ha ha ha..... This weekend I just converted a similar Vislero to 2S... unpacked everything, re soldered, changed equalizer tab... mine was flooded, with one cell on 0.8V, but have enough 3S packs, I needed a 2S. I just have to think what to do with the 1S left :)
          If you are careful with the soldering and avoid any shorts, it is absolutely ok to do. Make sure you get a solder pump... they used LOADS of solder on the tabs.

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          • AndyKunz
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Sep 2008
            • 1437

            #6
            Originally posted by KillerDave
            I'm OK with the electronics and so on but I have never played with a Li-Po before....

            I will take some pic's to show how it's come apart but I would need to peel back the covering of the cell... Is that ok to do?
            No. The MRE-style bags are sealed and need to stay that way. You can disassemble the cells from one another, but you can't fix what's inside the cell.

            There are some really good webinars on LiPo cell construction.

            Andy
            Spektrum Development Team

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            • Meniscus
              Refuse the box exists!
              • Jul 2008
              • 3225

              #7
              Since you seem to understand the dangers, please at least wear goggles. I'd just hate to see something happen to you. Burns heal and may leave scars, but eyes don't heal.

              Sorry for jumping in, but someone had to say it.
              IMPBA: 7-Time FE World Record Holder "Don't think outside the box. Rather, refuse to admit that the box exists in the first place!"

              MGM Controllers - Giant Power Lipos - ML Boatworks - Wholt's Wire Drives & Struts - Nano-Oil

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              • KillerDave
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2009
                • 370

                #8
                Originally posted by Meniscus
                Since you seem to understand the dangers, please at least wear goggles. I'd just hate to see something happen to you. Burns heal and may leave scars, but eyes don't heal.

                Sorry for jumping in, but someone had to say it.
                Hi,

                Thank you for the advice given and I do take on everything said.

                Here is a picture just to clear up what I have, I plan to pull back the cover just enough to refit the copper tab but my first thing to do is see how quickly the remaining tab can be tinned and if it takes well, waring my leather welding gloves, a full face mask and breathing mask, I will put the cell on a no conductive and non flamable surface outside and see how it goes.

                After that I will test the cell by giving it a dummy load in a fire box and IF it still holds up, I would think it's good...

                What do you guys think???? Yeah, I know.. I'm playing with fire!!! Lol.....
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                HPR C-5009, Riptide48, PaynPak 1/12, Miss Budweiser 1/8 Hydro, Miss Freya (own design 1/8 Hydro), HOR 32, Twin 380 HOR 32, Magin one

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                • Meniscus
                  Refuse the box exists!
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 3225

                  #9
                  I'm glad to hear that if you are going to attempt repairing a lipo, that you are taking some precautions. The other reason for posting is for someone else contemplating this type of repair or any repair for that matter.
                  IMPBA: 7-Time FE World Record Holder "Don't think outside the box. Rather, refuse to admit that the box exists in the first place!"

                  MGM Controllers - Giant Power Lipos - ML Boatworks - Wholt's Wire Drives & Struts - Nano-Oil

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                  • KillerDave
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 370

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Meniscus
                    I'm glad to hear that if you are going to attempt repairing a lipo, that you are taking some precautions. The other reason for posting is for someone else contemplating this type of repair or any repair for that matter.
                    Thanks Meniscus, I also play Ice hockey and as we say at the rink 'We live life on the edge' I know I will be filling my pants but if it saves me a few bucks then I'm happy!
                    HPR C-5009, Riptide48, PaynPak 1/12, Miss Budweiser 1/8 Hydro, Miss Freya (own design 1/8 Hydro), HOR 32, Twin 380 HOR 32, Magin one

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                    • AndyKunz
                      Fast Electric Addict!
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 1437

                      #11
                      I would never attempt what you are trying. I've done quite a bit with LiPos both at home and at work.

                      Andy
                      Spektrum Development Team

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                      • LiPo Power
                        DJI Drone Advanced Pilot
                        • May 2009
                        • 3186

                        #12
                        ..but why, why fix it????
                        DJI Drone Advanced Pilot
                        Canada

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                        • KillerDave
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 370

                          #13
                          Originally posted by AndyKunz
                          I would never attempt what you are trying. I've done quite a bit with LiPos both at home and at work.

                          Andy
                          I understand your concern so thank you Andy.
                          I muct concede to not doing it! I did try to tin the white metal tab but no go! It will not tin!!!!
                          The original copper tab had marks on it that looked like a sonic welder....
                          I'm not sure what the white metal is but it won't solder.....

                          I did send an email to Vislero to see if they will send me a new cell but no reply yet....
                          HPR C-5009, Riptide48, PaynPak 1/12, Miss Budweiser 1/8 Hydro, Miss Freya (own design 1/8 Hydro), HOR 32, Twin 380 HOR 32, Magin one

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                          • KillerDave
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2009
                            • 370

                            #14
                            Originally posted by LiPo Power
                            ..but why, why fix it????
                            Why? Why pay for new if you can fix the broken? I would like to call it recyceling but it's because I'm cheap! Lol.....
                            HPR C-5009, Riptide48, PaynPak 1/12, Miss Budweiser 1/8 Hydro, Miss Freya (own design 1/8 Hydro), HOR 32, Twin 380 HOR 32, Magin one

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                            • LiPo Power
                              DJI Drone Advanced Pilot
                              • May 2009
                              • 3186

                              #15
                              ...got it.....
                              DJI Drone Advanced Pilot
                              Canada

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