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  • Brushless55
    Creator
    • Oct 2008
    • 9488

    #151
    D&D, Great looking MM!
    .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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    • Rich
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2008
      • 551

      #152
      which rudder are you using the long 6" one or the mini 4" one?
      24 R/C vehicles and still counting...What budget?

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      • D&D
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 185

        #153
        It was 6" long but now it is 4&1/2" long. I love cuting things down and filing things by hand, seem to handle OK - BUT I don't go racing.

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        • Rich
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2008
          • 551

          #154
          ok so you trimmed it, i might have to take more off of mine, i noticed that the longer one is thicker than the mini. Can you tell me how much your pack weigh each in grams? I was thinking about getting some 4s packs. And can you tell me how far the bottom of the strut is from the bottom of the sponsons and what angle you have it at? I can't seem to hit over 50 with out the amps getting too high!
          24 R/C vehicles and still counting...What budget?

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          • D&D
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2009
            • 185

            #155
            Back in the 80s there was a documentary TV show on the Australian who still holds the world’s water speed record and in that show it showed him cutting off his rudder to gain more speed. The following week there were more inches cut off rudders than in the history of the Capitol RCers club. I never saw much or any difference in the handling of a cat boat and with no GPS or radar (in our club) it was hard to tell about speed.

            My rudder is 2 and three-eights inches under the running bottom of the boat and and is straight up and down. It seems to handle fine, but remember I’m not in a race and am building the boat for sport (just can’t stand to go slow).

            My batteries are 4S Turnigy 5000mAh, 35-45C, and weigh 554g. I seem to run them well forward of other MMs I see on the OSE Forum. In fact my COG is well forward of other MMs, but it seens to really lift and the attitude of the boat looks great.

            As I have stated previously, I am a FE beginner, I've tried to take advice from the forum and boats like "Fluid" "and Nautiboyz". I put that advice into what I bought and the care I took about starting prop sizes and watching my temps carefully, but I have no idea how many amps I'm pulling or anything else electric.

            I'm not so sure I agree (or understand at this point) about prop sizing. Normally, my past experience says (if the motor can turn it) larger prop faster speed, but I've run as fast or very near the same speeds with a X440-3 as with a X445 prop. In fact my next move (when the weather clears up) is to go back to the X440-3 with the strut level with the bottom of the boat.

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            • Rich
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2008
              • 551

              #156
              I am new to FE cats too, i have an FE mini mono. I was wondering if you could tell me where your strut was when you ran the X440 and the X442? And where your COG was?
              24 R/C vehicles and still counting...What budget?

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              • D&D
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2009
                • 185

                #157
                Initially when I ran the X440-3 my strut was just less than one-quarter inch up, results: 54.4mph. Same location for the strut with the X442 results: 55.5mph). Then when I ran the X445 my strut was just under three-eights inch up, results 55.0mph. I always ran my nitro boats with the strut flush with the bottom of the boat and proped or work props to that setting. Therefore, that is were I am going back to at this point in time.

                I actually don't know the measurement of my COG, but I know it is over 10 inches from the transom of the hull. However; I'm going to move the COG back to somewhere around nine and one-half inches from the transom - I'll find out if I can get more lift without blowing over. That should be "fun".

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                • Brushless55
                  Creator
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 9488

                  #158
                  Are you going back to 0 setting on your strut depth to see how it runs?
                  .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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                  • D&D
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 185

                    #159
                    I started a new thread in the Boat Building section this morning concerning my boat.

                    But, yes, this morning I ran the boat first with an X440-3 with the struct even with the bottom, "O", and I ran 57.3mph. Oh, I also set the COG way back, I was running much further forward than anyone I had seen in this form, and it was a little flighty even with the 3 blade. Next, I ran a X442 with the same settings and it ran 56.3mph just before it lifted off and crashed. I will move the COG a little forward after that experence, but it seem as though this morning told me that the Neu 1515 1Y is more of an rpm motor thana torque motor - it likes smaller props.

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                    • Brushless55
                      Creator
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 9488

                      #160
                      sweet, that's fast..
                      .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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