2.4Ghz AM Radio

[SweetAccord]

Ok, but on the cx2p it has the FM module that clips in there. So do i take the mdoule out, or but the 2.4 inside of the FM module.

It will work on any FM radio as PPM is just another way to describe FM. Weather you have a break out board or not, you should be able to do this from what I've been reading that others are doing. Some don't have a break out board so they solder it to the main board and remove the crystal from the radio so it's not broadcasting on both frequencies. Some are trick, they put a toggle switch and use both on the same radio.

You can see all this where I've been following the thread:

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=723343

Hope that helps.

[6S HYDRO]

Where do you get the modules

[SweetAccord]

Where do you get the modules

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbycity/s...dule_(PPM_Only)


http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbycity/s....4GHz_Receiver_

[G Doggett]

Where do you get the modules

HobbyKing.com

They have Pay Pal and their service is almost as good as OSE.

Graham.

[6S HYDRO]

Is this the same thing as the tactic. Look at the similarities

[6S HYDRO]

Oh believe me i know hobbycity, im a platinum member

[G Doggett]

Is this the same thing as the tactic. Look at the similarities

The Tactic is a complete radio system, Assan just do conversion kits for your existing radio.

Graham.

[Bill-SOCAL]

And just by the by, whether it works or not it is absolutely illegal in the US to do the conversion. Now honestly nobody will likely ever say anything, but it is prohibited to make changes to a FCC certified transmitter, and especially to mess with the RF deck.

Now plugging in modules is allowed. But internally modifying the transmitter to change the transmission mode is not.

[G Doggett]

And just by the by, whether it works or not it is absolutely illegal in the US to do the conversion. Now honestly nobody will likely ever say anything, but it is prohibited to make changes to a FCC certified transmitter, and especially to mess with the RF deck.

Now plugging in modules is allowed. But internally modifying the transmitter to change the transmission mode is not.

Oh dear, well bad luck for you guys in the US.
These hack modules appear to be selling like hot cakes in the rest of the world.
Graham.

[Bill-SOCAL]

I am not even sure they can be sold in the US. I posted in both the threads here just to make sure that any US readers understood the FCC regulations here.

In fact, in the US it is not legal to even change the crystal in a non-module based radio transmitter. You can change crystals in receivers to your heart's content, but you cannot touch the RF section of a transmitter.

[SweetAccord]

ASSAN CONVERSION KIT COMES WITH A FCC, CE & RoHS APPROVED 2.4GHz TX MODULE.

ASSAN X8 2.4Ghz System is designed to operate in compliance with the RF exposure guidelines set by national authorities. FCC ID: VJ9XRF01

So basically the part that is illegal when you are using a module that integrates into the radio system, as in the flow passes through the non compliant module and then out the antennae provided with the system. The the 2.4s get around this because they do not use the on board antennae, but rather their own. So the module never really integrates with the system, just adds on to the end of the process.

What is ILLEGAL is that a company knowingly selling a non compliant FCC product.

Also the AMA insurance:

Using a module other than one manufactured by the transmitter’s manufacturer would not void your AMA insurance coverage. However, we would like to caution that this more than likely would void your manufacturer’s warranty and could potentially create frequency interference problems.


Best regards,
Ilona Maine
Programs Department
Phone (765) 287-1256
Fax (765) 289-4248
www.modelaircraft.org

So in the end using the ASSAN only voids your actual radio warranty.

[Bill-SOCAL]

Lots of cross posts. Module based systems are fine. Non-module changes where you have to open the TX, solder wires, etc. are NOT fine. Ilona clearly is referring to module based systems like the 9303, etc.

[SweetAccord]

Lots of cross posts. Module based systems are fine. Non-module changes where you have to open the TX, solder wires, etc. are NOT fine. Ilona clearly is referring to module based systems like the 9303, etc.

I'm not racing, so as long as it's FCC, CE & RoHS APPROVED that is all that matters to me.

[SweetAccord]

I am not even sure they can be sold in the US. I posted in both the threads here just to make sure that any US readers understood the FCC regulations here.

In fact, in the US it is not legal to even change the crystal in a non-module based radio transmitter. You can change crystals in receivers to your heart's content, but you cannot touch the RF section of a transmitter.

If they are not legal to sell in the US then they can't ship to the US. Assan would be taking a HUGE risk of penalties and law suits if this was the case. Also There is no local state, county or city law that governs a device is "illegal" if it's FCC, CE, and ROHS approved. FCC is the KEY WORD here.

FCC: "The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) is an independent United States government agency. The FCC was established by the Communications Act of 1934 and is charged with regulating interstate and international communications by radio, television, wire, satellite and cable. The FCC's jurisdiction covers the 50 states, the District of Columbia, and U.S. possessions."

These guidelines are strict and when a device is submitted for FCC ID the unit must be described where and how it will be utilized. So as far as we are concerned the Assan is not "illegal" by any general public usage.

What is being referred to as "illegal" is in racing and or private clubs which have their own rules and regulations, but the point is that for general public usage, these rules do not apply to the Assan hence all this "illegal" statements are NULL and VOID.

So if you are so sure they are "illegal" please call the FCC for us all and report this company, as none of us want to break any laws, keep us posted to what you find.

Thank you.

[Bill-SOCAL]

OK, then you need to contact Hobby Lobby who just got fined by the FCC for selling an unapproved product that operates on the 2.4 band. It had an FCC label on it. A counterfeit one. They still got fined.

And again, I am NOT talking about the module based systems. I am talking about the ones that require you to open and physically modify the transmitter. I'll try to dig up the FCC code just to make you happy. Give me some time.