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  • mickgc29
    Junior Member
    • Oct 2023
    • 12

    #1

    New but Building a 60inch offshore boat

    Hi Guys
    New to electric boats but I race 2 stroke petrol
    But now we have a electric class so I want to build a 60inch boat to race offshore in the sea
    And motor I have got to try is a 56/123 500kv
    Running on 12S and boat will be heavy
    As anyone got a idea on what prop to use
    I only need to get about 50-55mph
    So no need for out and out speed and we race for 7 minutes

    Regards Michael
    Last edited by mickgc29; 10-05-2023, 09:13 PM. Reason: Missing words
  • Bande1
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2023
    • 680

    #2
    what voltage will you use?

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    • mickgc29
      Junior Member
      • Oct 2023
      • 12

      #3
      Hi
      Sorry yes that would help you guys 12s
      And boat will be quite heavy

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      • Bande1
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2023
        • 680

        #4
        so theres a bunch of prop choices. a simple starting point would be an X465 or X467, maybe even a X470
        https://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pr...?prod=oct-x465

        another is an ABC 2316-17-45

        a 3 blade might also be a good choice. its kinda hard to nail down exactly without knowing what real RPM would be. I would expect to buy 2-3 props to dial in runtime and heat.

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        • mickgc29
          Junior Member
          • Oct 2023
          • 12

          #5
          Thank you I will try a 65mm and see what amps the motor pulls with this and see what kind of speed I get

          What?s the best data logging setup
          I can only find the one from a German company

          Any thoughts on this system ?

          Regards Michael

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          • Bande1
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2023
            • 680

            #6
            you can get standalone data logging through the hyperion emeter2. Its very inexpensive. most large esc's that you need should have it internally. I dont know anything about the German one there.

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            • monojeff
              Moderator
              • Nov 2010
              • 2562

              #7
              Hello and welcome I have moved your thread to the boat building talk section
              OSE GIFTING ELF
              HAPPY HOLIDAYS!!

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              • Peter A
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Sep 2012
                • 1486

                #8
                Ok so having actually built and raced electric offshore boats I can give you some actual experience. My first boat was a 42" HK Osprey which ran 10s the first year with a TP4060 540 kv motor and detongued prather 245. Batts were 4s & 6s 20,000 mah in series and would do 20 mins runtime at 65-70 kph. Second year I change to a TP 4070 440 kv motor and ran the same set up other wise on 12s.
                I built a second boat which was a 45" hull and ran the 440 kv motor on 12s. On a ABC 2314/4 it would run at 90 kph and do two heat races or a 10 lap race on 6000 mah packs. The best run I did on 12s with 6s 6000 mah panther graphenes was over 8 mins on a Graupner carbon prop at a max speed of 56 kph.
                Esc was a Seaking HV 130.
                You have a much bigger boat, maybe too big, but if you carry the battery capacity then you can easily do the 7 mins. Prop size you will have to test with, OSE stocks the Graupner K series props and are good for testing to figure out a size, and cheap. Also two blade props are more efficient than three. Prathers are good, especially if you detongue them.
                Do not worry about weight, it has little effect on the top speed. I can tell you that from the testing that I have done in the past. With the size boat you have the extra battery weight will be negligible.
                While amp draw is important, it is the total mah that you use for a 7 min run that matters. You want to keep your amp draw as low as possible, 60-70 amps. On 12s this is still 3.5-4 hp equivalent. At 70 amp current draw you can do your 7 mins on 10,000 mah, so that is 12s 2p using 6s 5000 mah packs. The more capacity you have the higher the current draw you can use and then the bigger the prop and higher the top speed.
                NZMPBA 2013, 2016 Open Electric Champion. NZMPBA 2016 P Offshore Champion.
                2016 SUHA Q Sport Hydro Hi Points Champion.
                BOPMPBC Open Mono, Open Electric Champion.

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                • mickgc29
                  Junior Member
                  • Oct 2023
                  • 12

                  #9
                  Thanks Peter

                  The batteries I have are 16,000 per 6s per side
                  And 20,000 6s per side
                  I can buy more for next year
                  Racing in the sea you need weight and size
                  This year I ran a boat I bought second hand with a 56/94 650kv which was reasonably
                  But I want to build my own boat
                  Now I have done a little bit with this class
                  I went with a
                  SSS 56/123 500kv motor
                  Going to get a 400amp esc
                  the boat I plan to build is 62 inch
                  MHZ No Mercy

                  But I can change anything in the setup if there?s options


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