Need guidance / help - What hull and setup for my kids

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  • properchopper
    • Apr 2007
    • 6968

    #16
    Sometimes the situation calls for some sleeving for step down or step up

    vortex stepdown.jpg
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    • LibertyMKiii
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2018
      • 127

      #17
      Originally posted by properchopper
      Sometimes the situation calls for some sleeving for step down or step up

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      This is along the lines of what I was thinking. Thanks for the picture reference. I'll have to take some measurements with calipers and figure out what it needs.
      It is crazy to me that these products don't mention the inside diameter for where the tubing fits in.

      I had a similar surprise with the motor mounts for electric motors that are all made for M3 screws when most of my TP Power 40mm motors, I order with M4 mounting. (A little expanding on the motor mount with a Dremel endmill and I was good to go.)

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      • Peter A
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Sep 2012
        • 1486

        #18
        Originally posted by LibertyMKiii
        Made some good progress on the build up of this deep vee mono-hull boat.

        Quick question for the seasoned pros. I am using an TFL stinger made for 3/16. I have the 1/4 OSE brass tube ideal for the 3/16 flex shaft.
        There seems to be an excessive gap on the fitment of the 1/4 brass tube into the stinger. I was expecting it to be a rather snug fit. I foresee that being an entry point for water into the hull.

        Should I sleeve the tube with the next size up? What is your experience and what fits correctly?

        OSE support advised that the tube should end shortly after the transom to allow for adjustment. Meaning don't worry about fitting it snugly inside the stinger. I get the idea behind how this allows for angle adjustment, but nothing would keep the water from coming up the tube. Drawn image attached based on my understanding. Please educate me
        If you use a teflon liner then you can run that right into the stinger and have a flexible join for adjustment.
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        • LibertyMKiii
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2018
          • 127

          #19
          Originally posted by Peter A
          If you use a teflon liner then you can run that right into the stinger and have a flexible join for adjustment.
          I decided against the Teflon liner based on several threads here on the forums indicating it is yet another failure point.
          I ordered several sizes of brass tube today so I can make the step up to get a snug fit into the stinger. Should be good to go after that

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          • LibertyMKiii
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2018
            • 127

            #20
            Just in case someone google searches this thread in the future looking for a solution.
            With the TFL adjustable stinger I had to use the 9/32" tube over the 1/4" tube to get a snug fit into the stinger.

            The 9/32 was actually too thick walled to fit into the stinger initially, but I could tell this was the right size to use... To fix this I spun it with a drill and wet sanded/polished it down to fit snug.

            Getting close to putting this boat in the water and very excited.

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            • zooma
              Local club FE racer
              • May 2014
              • 650

              #21
              What I have done is slide about three O-rings over the stub of the stuffing tube, then put the stinger back on over them. I think that a sleeve will limit the stinger's adjustment.
              Ron - The Villages, FL

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              • LibertyMKiii
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2018
                • 127

                #22
                Originally posted by zooma
                What I have done is slide about three O-rings over the stub of the stuffing tube, then put the stinger back on over them. I think that a sleeve will limit the stinger's adjustment.
                That is a good idea. I ended up making the step up sleeve mostly fit inside the stinger and not run up to the transom. This allows the stinger to still be adjusted.

                Made some great progress this week:
                - Steering linkage setup with the bellows seal at the rear.
                - Battery tray made from a sheet of G10 plate that screws into the wood rails.
                - ESC plate from G10 and epoxied in, and ESC on it with 3m double sided tape.
                - Setup the ESC bullet connectors to the motor and battery series connector.
                - Tabs for the hatch to sit instead of falling inside the hull.
                - Sanded down the epoxy from patching up the old stuffing tube setup that went out the bottom of the hull. (converted to stinger setup)
                - Wired up the receiver in a water box.

                My ToDo list:
                - Trim tabs
                - Turn fins
                - Water cooling plumbing
                - Balance the prop and not breath in toxic dust

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                • LibertyMKiii
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2018
                  • 127

                  #23
                  Update pic of the boat. Nearly done, just waiting on some M4 screws with lock nuts to come in and a 47mm prop on the way.
                  Attached Files

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                  • LibertyMKiii
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2018
                    • 127

                    #24
                    Went out for a first test run last night. The boat runs great other than some bounce that I'll try to sort out with either adjusting the LiPo position / CG or trim tabs.
                    Overall very pleased and did a nice arial flip with rotation after hitting a log at the end of the video LOL! (no damage other than the break away screw in the rudder)

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                    • LibertyMKiii
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2018
                      • 127

                      #25
                      Small update.

                      I ended up revisiting this boat project this year and now I am hooked on the pursuit of speed

                      The setup in 2021 was a TP4070 (1700kv) and seaKing 180 for a little while and then tried the castle ESC. It ran about 60mph peak and just got wildly out of control above that speed.

                      I completely changed the layout recently putting the motor as far back as I could and installed a long OSE battery tray in the nose of the boat so I can adjust the balance.
                      This hull seems to always need the trim tabs despite putting the LiPos far forward. I may have to try a different prop, but honestly, I am thrilled with how great it is running. All this time I was thinking I would need to go out and buy a newer/modern hull and now this one is performing very good despite its age and outdated design.

                      The current setup is an XLX2 and still a TP4070. My old PB in 2021 was 61 mph on 6s. This past holiday weekend I achieved a new PB of 90 mph on 6s!!!
                      Pretty excited to see if I can push this setup into the triple digits with some tuning and warming the LiPos.

                      Although it is not as capable of high speeds as the rigger boats this mono hull is proving to be very fun and ideal for the long narrow pond I run on. (The rigger is a pain to run there since it won't turn left)
                      I also put in some 2 part closed cell foam from total boat. This stuff is rock hard and seems like it will help hold the boat together in a crash, which will be occurring soon I am sure.

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                      • Bande1
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2023
                        • 684

                        #26
                        90 that is crazy!!! did you ever get rid of the other hulls?

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                        • LibertyMKiii
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2018
                          • 127

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Bande1
                          90 that is crazy!!! did you ever get rid of the other hulls?
                          Yes I sold off everything, but this 42" mono and acquired a JAE 33 fe 2 months ago.

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