First Build Advice

[LukeFig]

Hi all!!
I've been boating for a few years now and i think I'm ready for my first build! I have a Spartan at the moment and i love the speed it gives.. But as u probably know, enough is never enough and i think its time for MORE SPEED!! I want to build a rigger because I've heard that they are stable at high speed even with some chop.. I like the Jae 21 and 33 but don't know which one to choose.. I like these most because i can buy a pre-bent stuffing tube for either one on Zippkits. Also they both have hardware kits that include everything i need to build it which makes it so much simplier to make sure im getting what i need I want to use the boat on 6s because i already have 6s packs and even some 3s for series. My main goal for all this is to go 60mph with decent temps and maybe even good runtime I'm only gonna use this with a few friends at the lake on the weekend so i wont be holding at 100% 24/7. All suggestions/advice welcome! Thanks --OVERALL BUDGET is no more than $750 (without batteries)--

Things I know before starting:

-RPM = Kv x Voltage of batts

-Riggers and reverse are not friends

-I can't afford a Neu motor without selling my left arm on the black market

[srislash]

I am no expert on the Zipkits but riggers in general ARE a 100% 24/7 kinda rig. They don't do slow really at all. 6s 5000mah is usually a feat in riggers as well. Hopefully someone with more knowledge on these particular ones will chime in.

Shawn

[CraigP]

From your description on the sort of fun you want to have, catamarans are a good hull. Riggers will do well above 60, especially a 33! I have a hydro, but those are speed commitment type boats. Cats can be very quick and turn on a dime! I'm not a rigger guy, so that's my 2 cents.

[Shooter]

A cheap P-limited 4S rigger will approach speeds of 55-60mph. A 6s rigger will far surpass that, unless you are propping down or running lower KV. What kind of chop are you talking about? Are you planning on running on open water (large lake)?

[Luck as a Constant]

stuffing a 6s pack into a jae 21 may be a challenge, no?

[CraigP]

That's the hard thing about riggers... It's like building a submarine! Has anyone ever put batts in the out riggers and cabled thru the boom? Wondering if moving the weight out sideways would add stability.. Any thoughts on that?

[LukeFig]

Thanks for all the replies!!
I would go with a low kv 6s setup over 4s since i already have those batteries.. I will be in a big lake so room is no issue. i will be in mostly very calm water with small chop once in a while. i do like a cat but i want to bui,d one of the riggers from zippkits for the reasons in my original post. I dont really want another rtr and building a cat seems more complicated since this is my first build

[CraigP]

I'm thinking along the same lines, just looked at zippkits this morning!

[LukeFig]

Does anyone have a suggestion on motor size and kv? ESC?

[Luck as a Constant]

Does anyone have a suggestion on motor size and kv? ESC?

I think you should email Steven directly at OSE and find out first, if a 6s pack will physically fit into the tub of a jae 21.
You're getting ahead of yourself here

[Luck as a Constant]

That's the hard thing about riggers... It's like building a submarine! Has anyone ever put batts in the out riggers and cabled thru the boom? Wondering if moving the weight out sideways would add stability.. Any thoughts on that?

I don't know if anyone has tried, mainly because there haven't been an issues related to stability within the power limitations of his hull. It's a great design and known to perform very well without trying to do stuff like you're suggesting

[Luck as a Constant]

This all of course being, we ARE still talking about the Jae 21

[LukeFig]

Thanks for the replies once again... this is all just ideas im not setting anything in stone yet.. I think that the Jae 33 would be a better option for me since i want to run 6s. Just looking for people with experience so i can have a fast and reliable boat

[LukeFig]

Zippkits says that the 33 can fit up to a 6s 4500mah and briefly talks about a 4082 being okay.. any suggestions based on this info?

[Luck as a Constant]

Well ide be looking for a motor in the 1500 kv range. But I've never owned a rigger. 4082 is probably plenty of motor