2017 Build Log - Jet Chopper 30 Hull

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  • oscarel
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Dec 2009
    • 2128

    #31
    Originally posted by Tamelesstgr
    Worked on the hatch a bit last few days, I epoxied 1/8" aluminum flat stock under the 4 corners then drilled and tapped them for Stainless M3 screws. I bought these nifty flat o-rings and those should seal nicely. Still wondering if I can find some thin membrane to line the hatch opening with. I will be using hatch tape, but would add like to add something between the hatch and hull as ProBoat does.

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    Where did you get the foam? I have some from Dennis love on jrcbd and it works very well.

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    • Tamelesstgr
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Jun 2014
      • 1516

      #32
      Yes, I got that foam from Dennis Love, from the Elite RC Boat group on Facebook.
      NEVER SATISFIED RACING
      Fine Design 32 V-Hull 4082+6s

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      • oscarel
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Dec 2009
        • 2128

        #33
        Cool, I have not tried it in a heavier electric yet. Gas boats so far it works great.

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        • Tamelesstgr
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Jun 2014
          • 1516

          #34
          Made the maiden run today on the JetChopper 30. Leak test went well so we buttoned her up and sent her off. A quick test to make sure the cooling lines were flowing and my son stabbed the throttle. We started out with a Graupner 442 2-blade. I have the COG set at 33% (10" from transom) and she for sure running wet.

          Datalogger showed:
          Max Amps: 77.23
          Max Watts: 1143
          Max RPM: 28,571
          Average Loaded RPM: 26,500 (Seems a little low, might come up with not plowing water?)
          GPS Speed: 30.2mph
          Max ESC Temp: 87.2
          Max Motor Temp: 68.4


          This is an SSS 3674 - 2075kv 4-pole motor on 4s
          Stinger and trim tabs all set to neutral

          I think setting the COG back to 30% at 9" should be my next step.

          I also noted that while the motor and esc were cool, the water is very cold in my pond, and the water flow coming from the rudder pickup was not to my liking so I will add the second pickup.

          I also have a slight alignment problem as I can hear the flex hitting the stuffing tube. I'm going to swap in another motor coupler to see if that helps at all, if not I might need to adjust the set screws on the motor mount.

          JC30 2075KV 4S G442 Prop 3-31-17 Gauges.JPG

          JC30 2075KV 4S G442 Prop 3-31-17 Temp Chart.jpg

          JC30 2075KV 4S G442 Prop 3-31-17 Amps Chart.jpg

          JC30 2075KV 4S G442 Prop 3-31-17 RPM Chart.jpg
          NEVER SATISFIED RACING
          Fine Design 32 V-Hull 4082+6s

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          • martin
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Aug 2010
            • 2887

            #35
            A friend of mine built a Jetchopper 30 with a Leopard 3674 2200kv on 4s, I only saw it run a few times. But it did run very wet with its bow down, he had no trim tabs on the hull so not that causing the problem. I don't know where he had the cg set but worth checking if theirs any hook in the hull.

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            • Tamelesstgr
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Jun 2014
              • 1516

              #36
              The hull does have quite a bit of hook in it, noticed it as soon as I received the hull.
              NEVER SATISFIED RACING
              Fine Design 32 V-Hull 4082+6s

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              • martin
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Aug 2010
                • 2887

                #37
                Although quite rare their are some hulls with built in hook, the Seaducer monos for one. Seaducer tell you that this hook is built in on purpose & not to take the hook out. But not sure on the Jetchopper hulls whether any hook is just a distortion in the hull that should not be their. I would email the guy that makes them & ask if the hook should be their rather than just filling the hook out first.

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                • martin
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Aug 2010
                  • 2887

                  #38
                  On the Jetchopper 30 website are the build & set up instructions, it states. The hook near the transom shall be grinded off to make a near perfect straight line, try moving your cg back first though. If that dosnt improve things I would look at filling the hook in the hull.

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                  • 785boats
                    Wet Track Racing
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 3169

                    #39
                    Mine has a hook in it also. As did the first one I built up years ago. I filled the hooks in the first one. it was a much better boat then.

                    Kenny, as suggested above, move the cog back & raise your trim tabs up to well above level to make sure they are not pushing the nose down too. Maybe put a slight positive angle in the strut too, if it is still running wet. If all that fails then as Martin suggests, you will need to fill the hooks.
                    See the danger. THEN DO IT ANYWAY!!!
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                    • Tamelesstgr
                      Fast Electric Addict!
                      • Jun 2014
                      • 1516

                      #40
                      Will try those suggestions. What would I use if I end up deciding to fill the bottom?
                      NEVER SATISFIED RACING
                      Fine Design 32 V-Hull 4082+6s

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                      • martin
                        Fast Electric Addict!
                        • Aug 2010
                        • 2887

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Tamelesstgr
                        Will try those suggestions. What would I use if I end up deciding to fill the bottom?
                        I use car body filler, its quick drying in around 15 minuets so you can use put multiple layers if need be. Easy to sand & cheap from auto stores, just paint after.

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                        • fweasel
                          master of some
                          • Jul 2016
                          • 4282

                          #42
                          Just for rookie clarification, a "hook" is an imperfection in the bottom of the hull? I'm envisioning it as a depression followed by a ridge just before the transom.
                          Vac-U-Tug Jr (13mph)

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                          • Tamelesstgr
                            Fast Electric Addict!
                            • Jun 2014
                            • 1516

                            #43
                            Yes, it's basically that the bottom of the hull is not flat, I'll take some pictures later.
                            NEVER SATISFIED RACING
                            Fine Design 32 V-Hull 4082+6s

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                            • martin
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • Aug 2010
                              • 2887

                              #44
                              Yes a hook is a distortion in the hull bottom where the distortion is concaved, this sucks the hull down to the water. You can also get a rocker distortion in the hull which is which is the opposite to a concave, which causes the hull to porpoise.

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                              • martin
                                Fast Electric Addict!
                                • Aug 2010
                                • 2887

                                #45
                                Hooks & rockers also apply to both monos & cat hull running surfaces.

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