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  • Thomas Schlarb
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2014
    • 509

    #1

    Help on twin ESC setup..

    Ok I've got my first twin cat and I'm setup it up with two 240 HV Swordfish esc's. My question is can I plug these into a Y connection and run. Or do I need to pull the red power wire off one esc first. Or is there something else I should do? Thanks for your time and advice
  • ls1fst98
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2009
    • 859

    #2
    i dont believe they have a bec? if not theres nothing needed to do, if they have bec then just disable 1 or pull the red wire out of one of the plugs and mark the esc that still has the bec active and plug that one in first.
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    • tlandauer
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Apr 2011
      • 5666

      #3
      On ESCs with BEC you do need to pull one red wire out, so only one will feed to the receiver. Common way is to use a short servo extension and pull the red on the extension so nothing is altered on the ESC. If you use Spektrum's MR-3000 series ( discontinued) rx, no need to use Y as the receiver has two ports for this kind of twin ESC set up (the extension should have the red pulled so only one ESC is feeding).
      On the 240HV Swordfish I don't remember if there is a BEC or not, my memory tells me that they don't have a BEC so if you are feeding with a UBEC, just pull the red from your Y so both ESC's red is out. If you are indeed using the MR-3000, then use two short extension and pull the red on both before plugging them into the rx.
      I hope I am right as I have not used the Swordfish and this comes from my CastleCreations's experience.
      Too many boats, not enough time...

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      • srislash
        Not there yet
        • Mar 2011
        • 7673

        #4
        The 240 has no BEC so no need to pull red wires. They have no provision to power their own Rx power.

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        • tlandauer
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Apr 2011
          • 5666

          #5
          Originally posted by srislash
          The 240 has no BEC so no need to pull red wires. They have no provision to power their own Rx power.
          Thanks Shawn!
          Too many boats, not enough time...

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          • TRUCKPULL
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Apr 2007
            • 2971

            #6
            Thomas

            I have found that with a twin setup, it is better to wire the input (battery power) of the two ESC's together in Parallel.
            This way both ESC's will see a 2P setup instead of one battery pack for each one.
            If you run them in 1P each, the outside motor will pull down the outside pack more then the inside pack when turning right, then by the end of your race the boat will want to turn Left in the straightaways.

            Another trick that I learned is when connecting the two black battery input wires of the ESC's use a plug instead of soldering them.
            This way when you want to change the program, you just unplug the two black wires first. (no unsoldering)
            You cannot reprogram two ESC's hooked together.

            Larry
            Last edited by TRUCKPULL; 03-02-2016, 02:58 PM.
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            • richard
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2012
              • 109

              #7
              larry when you do that do you have to pull the two red on esc.

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              • TRUCKPULL
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Apr 2007
                • 2971

                #8
                Richard

                In my post above, I am talking about the red and black battery wires on the ESC (power from your Lipos) inputs into your ESC's

                For the control plugs, I use 4" servo extensions, with the red wire removed in the extensions.
                I also always run a UBEC from one of the ESC's.
                The BEC circuit is located in the radio board in the ESC's
                I have found that by disconnecting it viva the red wire,
                The radio board runs about 20 degrees cooler.

                Larry
                Last edited by TRUCKPULL; 03-03-2016, 12:25 PM.
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                • longballlumber
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 3132

                  #9
                  Has anyone considered running 2 RX's vs. a "Y" connector?

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                  • TRUCKPULL
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 2971

                    #10
                    Originally posted by longballlumber
                    Has anyone considered running 2 RX's vs. a "Y" connector?
                    Just another receiver to waterproof or put into a balloon, match to your transmitter, take up space, weight, ETC.

                    "Y" connector is easy to make, or cheaper to buy then another receiver.

                    Not saying it will not work.

                    Larry
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                    • TRUCKPULL
                      Fast Electric Addict!
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 2971

                      #11
                      Here is a wiring diagram to show how to wire two ESC's to two batteries
                      so that the ESC's see 2P each.

                      I have found that with a twin setup, it is better to wire the input (battery power) of the two ESC's together in Parallel.
                      This way both ESC's will see a 2P setup instead of one battery pack for each one.
                      If you run them in 1P each, the outside motor will pull down the outside pack more then the inside pack when turning right, then by the end of your race the boat will want to turn Left in the straightaways.

                      Another trick that I learned is when connecting the two black battery input wires of the ESC's use a plug instead of soldering them.
                      This way when you want to change the program, you just unplug the two black wires first. (no unsoldering)
                      You cannot reprogram two ESC's hooked together.


                      Larry
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                      • Thomas Schlarb
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2014
                        • 509

                        #12
                        Originally posted by TRUCKPULL
                        Here is a wiring diagram to show how to wire two ESC's to two batteries
                        so that the ESC's see 2P each.

                        I have found that with a twin setup, it is better to wire the input (battery power) of the two ESC's together in Parallel.
                        This way both ESC's will see a 2P setup instead of one battery pack for each one.
                        If you run them in 1P each, the outside motor will pull down the outside pack more then the inside pack when turning right, then by the end of your race the boat will want to turn Left in the straightaways.

                        Another trick that I learned is when connecting the two black battery input wires of the ESC's use a plug instead of soldering them.
                        This way when you want to change the program, you just unplug the two black wires first. (no unsoldering)
                        You cannot reprogram two ESC's hooked together.


                        Larry
                        Will this battery hook up work for 10s setups?

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                        • TRUCKPULL
                          Fast Electric Addict!
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 2971

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Thomas Schlarb
                          Will this battery hook up work for 10s setups?
                          I don't see any reason why it wouldn't.

                          Larry
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