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  • j.m.
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2008
    • 838

    #16
    Don't know about the 2.26mm shaft...

    Use this motor:


    It's got a 1/8" shaft.

    Or this if you are looking for a top-of-the-line motor for a small hydro:



    Both of those motors are rated at or above 440 watts of power.

    They will push these little hydro's along at INCREDIBLE speeds.
    Those motors are kinda like the Neu's of inrunners.

    Not the best, but they sure are good.

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    • stablgr
      Member
      • Sep 2008
      • 93

      #17
      Good question. Does anyone know where I could get a coupling for this motor?
      By the time a man realizes that maybe his father was right, he usually has a son who thinks he's wrong.

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      • n.h.schmidt
        Member
        • May 2007
        • 39

        #18
        Couplers

        I make and sell custom motor couplers. 2.26mm works out to .089 dia. I can make couplers for that size. What size prop shaft? Typicaly for a simple one like this the cost would be $6 plus shipping of $1. With two couplers ordered ,no shipping charge.
        n.h.schmidt

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        • Avanti
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Nov 2007
          • 1280

          #19
          Originally posted by peells
          Ok I have seen these motors on ebay and do these speed controls that they come with work properly with a pistol grip radio? and one more question where do you get a coupling for a 2.26 mm shaft? I have found the 3mm shafts but no luck on the 2.26mm shafts (maybe I am not looking in the right places) and how do we know if the speed controllers are or are not compatable with P.G. Radios before we get them or is it just a crap shoot? just wondering since the pistix are no longer available and not being produced any more, that is a bumber those things work great so start making them again RC Hydros!!!!
          the mystery 30a work fine with my JR pistol model XS3
          The Manx has been sitting dormant, but I think I finally have my motivation back. I hope to see it float soon.

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          • peells
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2008
            • 716

            #20
            N.H. Schmidt, That is great information to know,
            John thank you! I have a 2.4 Ghz fasst Futaba and I have used Hex tronic's esc and they would start running with the trigger in the off position and go really fast in reverse and stop in full throttle so I bought a pistix and cured that prob. and thanks for all the information.
            Peter Eells; Fun, and Helping others To Have Fun!!!
            http://rcboatsbypetere.blogspot.com/
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            • stablgr
              Member
              • Sep 2008
              • 93

              #21
              Originally posted by n.h.schmidt
              I make and sell custom motor couplers. 2.26mm works out to .089 dia. I can make couplers for that size. What size prop shaft? Typicaly for a simple one like this the cost would be $6 plus shipping of $1. With two couplers ordered ,no shipping charge.
              n.h.schmidt
              Thanks, I'll certainly keep that in mind. I haven't sorted out what I'm going to use for the prop shaft. I can't work out the pros and cons between a piano wire type drive or one of the flex cable thingymajigs.
              By the time a man realizes that maybe his father was right, he usually has a son who thinks he's wrong.

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              • Chop
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2007
                • 504

                #22

                O.K., I worked on the boat tonight. I’ve been putting it off because I have too many irons in the fire.

                I have the new 3000kv motor installed, put the stuffing tube back in, and have the electronics assembled. The ESC is slightly larger than the stock one, but there was enough room.

                I’m waiting for the glue to dry. I will take pictures tomorrow, and might even get it wet at lunch time.
                There is a fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."

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                • Chop
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 504

                  #23
                  Well, the mini hydro runs good with the new parts (3000kv outrunner & 30a ESC). Tough getting the wires routed so that they don't touch the outrunner's can.

                  The prop got scuffed up somehow (Did my son run it up on some rocks?). On the straight-a-way it runs good, but in the turns it dies in cavitation. After a few moments the prop grabs and it takes off.

                  It looks like a very small, threaded propshaft (3mm?). I'm guessing that the prop should be played with.

                  No, it is not going to just be a SAW boat.
                  There is a fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."

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                  • Dr. Jet
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 1707

                    #24
                    It's probably a Graupner threaded prop (4 mm threads). Try a K29 prop from OSE.
                    A nation of sheep breeds a government of wolves

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                    • Chop
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2007
                      • 504

                      #25
                      Damn, I just received an order today.
                      There is a fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."

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                      • peells
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 716

                        #26
                        Try putting a turn fin on the back of the sponson which is on the inside of your turns, I had the exact problem with my mono and I suspect the same thing is happining here, it was like adding power steering and I then could use full power in the turns. Good luck, (I vote your kid hit some rocks)
                        Peter Eells; Fun, and Helping others To Have Fun!!!
                        http://rcboatsbypetere.blogspot.com/
                        [email protected]

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                        • Chop
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2007
                          • 504

                          #27
                          Sorry, I forgot to mention that I also installed a turn fin.

                          My bet is on the (slightly, chewed up) prop.
                          There is a fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."

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                          • peells
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2008
                            • 716

                            #28
                            I hate it when that happens!!! How about battery position? strut depth? strut angle? a jet engine LOL
                            Peter Eells; Fun, and Helping others To Have Fun!!!
                            http://rcboatsbypetere.blogspot.com/
                            [email protected]

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                            • n.h.schmidt
                              Member
                              • May 2007
                              • 39

                              #29
                              Prop

                              Hi
                              If you are using the original prop that came with the boat,it is a 26mm prop with a 2mm threaded hub. Offshore has new replacement props.I don't know if your prop shaft is also 2mm all the way or stepped down. Offshore used to have 2mm to 4mm adapters for the zig zag boats. That would allow the use of the other Graupner props starting with the K 29 and going up from there. I can make the adapter if Offshore doesen't carry them anymore. n.h.schmidt

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