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  • Xzessperated
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Apr 2008
    • 3060

    #391
    Slim, I will try to answer your question and give you some answers to your problems.
    First lets deal with your battery. The battery is probably the most important part of your boat. It contains the energy that is going to propel your boat to great speed. The motor and propeller convert that energy into a useful force to propel the boat. A 15C battery is not going to give you enough power in a short time to be of any use. Buy at least 25C or 30C if you can afford it. Speed costs money, how much do you want to spend? That is what it all boils down to. Be careful how many volts you throw at your motor or you risk damaging your battery, speed controller or motor. What motor are you running and what speed controller are you using? Prop size will also be another thing to watch. As you know motors and speed controllers are designed to run within certain boundaries. I run my Mr. Krabs on 14.8 volts and it is running just a shade under 70 mph and there is more speed to come with the same battery. If I throw more volts at the motor I will go faster but not for long as something will cook.

    You need to throw those plastic props in the pond and buy some good brass ones or failing that some Carbon Fiber ones. I find the Carbon Fiber ones do not last long either. Do you know you can buy all the parts you want on this site? OSE has a shop and Steven is a great guy with excellent service. His prices are good and he delivers all over the world. When we know the motor and esc I am sure many will suggest some brass props you can get from Steven that will suit your setup.
    Turning should be one of the boats strong points. My boat turns so sharp it has been know to disappear up its own stuffing tube. What length is the rudder and where have you placed the turn fin? Can we have some pictures of both rudder and turn fin and that will help us all see the problem?
    You can run Lipos in either series or parallel.
    Get back to us with the answers to the questions that I asked and some pictures of the turn fin and rudder area and we will have your Mr. Krabs going faster and turning better than you have ever seen. This is a hull that will turn and does not mind race water.
    Paddy

    I will edit this in. Where is your center of gravity?
    Last edited by Xzessperated; 01-24-2009, 10:34 PM.
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    • Xzessperated
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Apr 2008
      • 3060

      #392
      Mr. Krabs set a new Tasmanian record this morning with a speed of 113 kph or a shade over 70 mph
      Setup was..... 4s V947/3 Neu 1521 1D
      The prop was the new thing in the setup. The Octura V947/3 was sharpened, balanced and cupped by Andym. Thanks Andy for a really great job. It still leaves me with 30 mph to find and progress is slow but we are going in the right direction. I am going to start to move some weight back a little as this hull has never looked like blowing over and the sponsons stay planted on the water at all times.
      This makes Mr. Krabs my fastest boat now on 4s. My Xzess 2 has done 124 kph but that was on 6s
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      • egneg
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Feb 2008
        • 4670

        #393
        Paddy - how did Andy cup the prop? I would like to see a picture if possible as he seems to have me beat at this. I know he picked up some cupping tools - way to go Andy!
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        • Xzessperated
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Apr 2008
          • 3060

          #394
          Originally posted by egneg
          Paddy - how did Andy cup the prop? I would like to see a picture if possible as he seems to have me beat at this. I know he picked up some cupping tools - way to go Andy!
          Chuck, give me a few minutes and I will edit some pictures in here for you.

          Ok here comes the edit....









          There you go Chuck. How do you like those puippies?
          Sorry about the picture quality but I am just using my Nokia cell phone.
          I hope this helps
          Last edited by Xzessperated; 01-25-2009, 06:17 PM.
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          • egneg
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Feb 2008
            • 4670

            #395
            Thanks Paddy.

            P.S. I am still working on that little project for you but time seems to slip by so fast!
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            • Scott T
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2007
              • 590

              #396
              Geez Paddy you were up early testing!! Too early for me on a public holiday....

              Congrats on the speed progress, sounds like it's getting up there. You'll eclipse that XS2 speed in no time!
              Scott Tapsall
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              • Xzessperated
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Apr 2008
                • 3060

                #397
                Originally posted by Scott T
                Geez Paddy you were up early testing!! Too early for me on a public holiday....

                Congrats on the speed progress, sounds like it's getting up there. You'll eclipse that XS2 speed in no time!

                Thanks Scott. My lake is very popular for swimming so I go early in the interest of public safety. I have a golden rule.... "Never put a boat in the water while someone is swimming".

                I am not sure about eclipsing the Xzess 2 speed as Heaths motor is coming for that and I hope to get into the 130 kph area with that. Andy and I are always working on more speed for my boats.
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                • Xzessperated
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Apr 2008
                  • 3060

                  #398
                  Originally posted by egneg
                  Thanks Paddy.

                  P.S. I am still working on that little project for you but time seems to slip by so fast!
                  No hurry Chuck. I need to do some work on that program myself
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                  • egneg
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 4670

                    #399
                    Ok - it looks like he narrowed the thrust quite a bit. I have to give it to him as the V947-3 is a very bad casting and is a ***l***l***l***l*** to work.
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                    • Xzessperated
                      Fast Electric Addict!
                      • Apr 2008
                      • 3060

                      #400
                      Originally posted by egneg
                      Ok - it looks like he narrowed the thrust quite a bit. I have to give it to him as the V947-3 is a very bad casting and is a ***l***l***l***l*** to work.

                      Yes the first one was so bad it ended up on the moon I think. Steven sent the second one free of charge. You have to hand it to Steven as it was not his fault but he replaced it. How many other vendors do that?
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                      • RandyatBBY
                        Fast Electric Addict!
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 3915

                        #401
                        What is the holiday down under?
                        Randy
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                        • Xzessperated
                          Fast Electric Addict!
                          • Apr 2008
                          • 3060

                          #402
                          Originally posted by RandyatBBY
                          What is the holiday down under?
                          Hi Randy. It is Australia day. Just another excuse for the country to get drunk.
                          I see you have been busy with the spray gun. Looking good. Thanks Randy but take your time. As you can see I have plenty of riggers. I can not wait for yours to come and claim it's place as King of my fleet though.
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                          • slimshady
                            Member
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 72

                            #403
                            You are all right 15C cells are rubbish and should be avoided, when I used the 14.8V 20C cell Mr Krabs took off, and I mean planed big time with a lot of speed.

                            I am currently looking at spending a lot of money on an 18.5V 4000mah 30C with 50C burst current this should deliver 120A normal running and 200A burst current. The other option is a 14.8V 4000mah 30C with 50C burst, a bit cheaper £20 - £30 but not sure what the extra cell will do for the boat other than the potential rev difference, not sure about the torque.

                            The motor is currently only a 60A 3300rpv water cooled 540, but as mentioned in previous threads I am not going for the speed record, I am simply using cheep components to get her trimmed out before I start to spend the money and start to build up the speed. Now I realise I am tackling this the wrong way round – go mental with good components and trim it out to suit. The SC is a Mystery FM100A, (thought it was a 160 when I brought it) ok I probably should be using at least 120A so I have twice the design capability of the motor.

                            For the time being I will stick with the current setup just to keep the cost down this month and buy a good / hopefully future proof for a couple of months, battery for Mr Krabs. The other option is to buy 2 x 14.8V 20C 4000mah Lipos approximately the same cost and series them together to give more volts but less Amps, once again not sure what it will do to the torque.

                            I am going to get a 45.7mm 2 blade Octura M645 Prop – the 45 was faster than the 3 blade 42mm plastic one. Not sure if going bigger is better, but from what I have seen the bigger the better?

                            I enclose some photos of the rear setup with the CF addition to the rudder and a photo of the spare turn fin – not properly attached to the right sponson because the original lovely sanded and sharpened is sitting of the bottom of the pond, the one in the photos has been lightly and roughly super glued to the sponson just so you can see how it looked prior to the accident.

                            I tried to take a photo or 2 of the COG hope it is good enough, I have been told that a rigger needs as much weight forward but the COG should be a bit back from the rear of the sponsons, not sure.

                            Once again all comments welcome positive and more importantly negative – HELP!!!

                            Slim
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                            • egneg
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 4670

                              #404
                              Originally posted by Xzessperated
                              Yes the first one was so bad it ended up on the moon I think. Steven sent the second one free of charge. You have to hand it to Steven as it was not his fault but he replaced it. How many other vendors do that?
                              I had one where the tip of the blade broke off and so I tried to cut it down to 945 only to have it happen again - I threw it over the fence!
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                              • RandyatBBY
                                Fast Electric Addict!
                                • Sep 2007
                                • 3915

                                #405
                                Originally posted by Xzessperated
                                Hi Randy. It is Australia day. Just another excuse for the country to get drunk.
                                I see you have been busy with the spray gun. Looking good. Thanks Randy but take your time. As you can see I have plenty of riggers. I can not wait for yours to come and claim it's place as King of my fleet though.
                                Thanks, I wish I could partake in a little Jameson my self. I am having fun finishing three boats right now. Lots of sanding and dust making!
                                Randy
                                For ABS, Fiberglass, Carbon hulls and Stainless hardware
                                BBY Racing

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