Scratch building a mono (old school)

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  • mlbarnett
    Junior Member
    • Jul 2012
    • 16

    #1

    Scratch building a mono (old school)

    The first thing I did was design an outline of what I propose to build. The basic sport V design is something I've done before many years ago (25 yrs). From the overall design I extrapulated the cross sections so I can begin transfering them to my chosen material, wood.

    This method of building is for those who love to create something from nothing. It's about the building process as much as the end product. Not for the uninitiated or distracted.

    I estimate this boat will take some 6 months. If I didn't have other responsibilities and a job I could do it in 3 weeks. Such is life.

    So for you hardcore builders, I hope you look in now and then and get some pleasure from the work.

    Thanks, Mike
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  • Richie the shipwright
    boatbuilder
    • Dec 2012
    • 185

    #2
    Bring it on dude, I like your style! nothin like glue on your fingers and timber shavings on the floor! Us scatch builders are a dying breed... Good luck!!
    Im confused..... no...wait...mabee im not?

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    • Mike Caruso
      Senior Member
      • May 2012
      • 940

      #3
      Great will be watching. No time for me either this year but next winter I am building wooden boat. Where are you buying the wood? Spruce has been hard for me to find for me local. I have been told the Spruce is being using for Electric wind gen's.
      Mike
      Do It Like You Mean It .....or Don't Bother

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      • mlbarnett
        Junior Member
        • Jul 2012
        • 16

        #4
        Believe it not I found some nice ply at Hobby Lobby with the price being cheaper than I expected. My only issue will be the thin spruce or birch to cover the hull. I already have a lot of the misc pieces from projects of old. Will also use as much balsa as posible and am comfortable with.
        Scratch build it! It's as much about the journey as it is the destination.

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        • 785boats
          Wet Track Racing
          • Nov 2008
          • 3169

          #5
          I love scratch building. Although I haven't built a fast electric mono, I've done plenty of 'scale boats', so I appreciate the effort you are going to put into it.

          Mike.
          A couple of places for spruce strips & aircraft ply over there in the States. Many other things useful to building model boats too.





          Cheers.
          Paul.
          Last edited by 785boats; 01-12-2013, 03:21 PM.
          See the danger. THEN DO IT ANYWAY!!!
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          • mlbarnett
            Junior Member
            • Jul 2012
            • 16

            #6
            Thanks, Paul. I'll need to find a source for thin ply.
            Mike
            Scratch build it! It's as much about the journey as it is the destination.

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            • mlbarnett
              Junior Member
              • Jul 2012
              • 16

              #7
              Gathered all the wood I needed for the frame. Almost all is left overs from previous projects (used to build planes as well). Will be using primarily balsa throughout with the exeption of transom, a few key structural pieces and of course the skin.
              Haven't made any decisions on the thickness of the covering ply. Of course looking for that optimal compromise between weight and strength. Any suggestion?
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              • big g money
                Junior Member
                • Dec 2008
                • 8

                #8
                This place has some thin plywood http://www.bd-international.com/

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                • mlbarnett
                  Junior Member
                  • Jul 2012
                  • 16

                  #9
                  Creating structural pieces

                  Alright, took a big step this week end. Using a scanner/printer I transfered all my plans onto card stock paper. Then using scissors and an exacto knife with straight edge cut out all pattern pieces. Then I transfered all the shapes I cut onto 3/16" balsa and 1/8" birch ply. Use a ball point pen, because a sharpie or gel pen will bleed into the grain and make for a fuzzy line. And finally I'm in the process of cutting out all my pieces and giving them a final touch up. What I mean by touch up is taking the time to align mirror and duplicate pieces and sanding or shaving them to be indentical. Also pre fit all pieces into each other individually to sand and adjust alignment and fit. If you take your time and don't rush this stage it will make the up and coming assembly a pleasure instead of a curse fest. You feeling me?
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                  • zx11976r
                    Junior Member
                    • Apr 2012
                    • 24

                    #10
                    Looks good. What is the estimate overall length?

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                    • Mike Caruso
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2012
                      • 940

                      #11
                      Originally posted by mlbarnett
                      Believe it not I found some nice ply at Hobby Lobby with the price being cheaper than I expected. My only issue will be the thin spruce or birch to cover the hull. I already have a lot of the misc pieces from projects of old. Will also use as much balsa as posible and am comfortable with.
                      Hobby Lobby's here only have Bass in small pcs.
                      Do It Like You Mean It .....or Don't Bother

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                      • Mike Caruso
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2012
                        • 940

                        #12
                        Originally posted by 785boats
                        I love scratch building. Although I haven't built a fast electric mono, I've done plenty of 'scale boats', so I appreciate the effort you are going to put into it.

                        Mike.
                        A couple of places for spruce strips & aircraft ply over there in the States. Many other things useful to building model boats too.





                        Cheers.
                        Paul.
                        Thanks Paul
                        Mike
                        Do It Like You Mean It .....or Don't Bother

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                        • Mike Caruso
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2012
                          • 940

                          #13
                          Originally posted by big g money
                          This place has some thin plywood http://www.bd-international.com/
                          Thanks BGM
                          Mike
                          Do It Like You Mean It .....or Don't Bother

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                          • mlbarnett
                            Junior Member
                            • Jul 2012
                            • 16

                            #14
                            Going to be 24" long and 10" wide. A shallow V, typical of your lake runabout.
                            Scratch build it! It's as much about the journey as it is the destination.

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                            • mlbarnett
                              Junior Member
                              • Jul 2012
                              • 16

                              #15
                              Assembled frame

                              After all the sanding and adjusting, I assembled all the peices using CA. You see in the picture I use a "Magic Magnetic Building Board". It's the one I got when I built airplanes. Using this keeps the keel straight and allows the basic stick frame to be true. It still will twist until the outer covering starts going on. I next sanded the finished frame work to prepare it for skinning. This is the time to "eyeball" the alignment of surfaces and make any small adjustments.

                              The next step was to treat the wood with a slow epoxy (slower the better) thinned out with denatured alcohol. Rubbing alcohol won't work. I coat all areas of the frame I can't reach, or will have a hard time reaching when the skin starts going on. This seals the grain and bonds all the little gaps and crevices to give it some strength. Use wax paper under your work so nothing sticks as it cures.

                              I found some 1/32" birch ply at Michael's (the craft store). A 12" x 24" sheet cost $8.99. That's much cheaper than the cheapest I could find on the internet. They have in fact all the balsa, bass, spruce sticks and ply I could want. The only thing they didn't have was specialty pieces like triangle or aileron stock. If you guys have a Micheal's nearby check it out.
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