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  • calcagno45
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Mar 2008
    • 1006

    #1

    it just wasnt right

    ok so on her maiden voyage, she let the fireworks out.

    30" cat
    9xl
    xpower 100- rip
    16 IB3800
    cf45 prop.

    where did I go wrong?

    I didnt seal the hatch that well and some water got in, short circuit? or just too hot??
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    My prop hasn't been wet in a while.
  • Doby
    KANADA RULES!
    • Apr 2007
    • 7280

    #2
    I really doubt it was water related.
    Whats the max voltage rating on the controller?

    By the way, welcome to the club of destroyed equipment. We have all had that happen at one time or another. Don't get discouraged
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    • calcagno45
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Mar 2008
      • 1006

      #3
      Its the Xpower 100 controller Steven sells.

      I'm ordering another tomorrow. The couple passes I made were too much fun!!! I even drew a crowd.
      My prop hasn't been wet in a while.

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      • SJFE
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Apr 2007
        • 4735

        #4
        xpower 100- rip
        Are you saying you got ripped off?

        IMO WAY over propped. You had it to the wall on voltage limits and tossed a 45mm prop @ it. Did you pull it in for the 30 second temp check? The rule of thumb is to start with the smallest prop you can. Like Doby said don't give up. We live and we learn. The last mistake I made cost me over 100 bucks.

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        • Doby
          KANADA RULES!
          • Apr 2007
          • 7280

          #5
          SJFE, I think he meant RIP,Rest In Peace
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          • SJFE
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Apr 2007
            • 4735

            #6
            LOL yeah I think your right. The lack of R.I.P. sent me in another direction.

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            • calcagno45
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Mar 2008
              • 1006

              #7
              lol yeah man rest in peace!!

              I wish Steven had some more XPowers in stock tho. Looks like I might be headed to the CC Hydra.

              Where should I start like a 40 or 42 prop?? ANd I guess I should have tried 12-14 cells first. Boy she flew tho, and I didn't even run her WOT.
              My prop hasn't been wet in a while.

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              • ace028
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2007
                • 952

                #8
                Not running full throttle may have been part of your problem, because the esc heats up more during partial throttle then at full, it is best to run at full throttle if you can. Like they said above, start with a very small prop, then work your way up keeping your temps in check.
                Twin power =

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                • 10gauge
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2007
                  • 281

                  #9
                  Potential problems:
                  1. Partial Throttle
                  2. Exceeded the Amp rating on ESC with a 9XL
                  3. Over-propped

                  The 9XL is rated at 74A. A 100A ESC won' cut it, give yourself a 40% safety margin. Running 16-cells @19.2v is over 35,000rpm. It seems too much for a 45mm prop on a maiden voyage. You may have exceeded 74A on the motor and exceeded the limit of the ESC. Start with a m440 and work your way up for that setup. If you run partial throttle, you'll burn a Hydra 120 too. I've learned the hard way, I've done that. Run it full throttle!

                  Share your sorrows with the group, these guys are very helpful. Do yourself a favor, resist the urge to stay out there - bring the boat in and measure temps after 1 minute of running, then go out again. At some point a data logger is a good insurance policy to have, like the V3. Good Luck...
                  Mean Machine Cat: 9XL, 4S2P, CC120, M545 (50mph) -- DF22 Hydro: 8L, 3S1P/4500, CC120, x637 (49mph) -- M-1 SuperCat: 1521/1Y, 6S2P, CC240, x447 (61mph) -- SV27 Mono: stock setup, 14-cell/4200, x642 (42mph) -- Micro Scat Cat: 28-3600, 3S1P/2100, Turnigy 60, x430 (41mph)

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                  • calcagno45
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 1006

                    #10
                    Originally posted by 10gauge
                    Do yourself a favor, resist the urge to stay out there - bring the boat in and measure temps after 1 minute of running, then go out again.
                    Man you nailed me. I was loving it. and then a crowd formed and I didnt want to end the show early. lol. But i learned my lesson.

                    I'll be ordering a Hydra 240 tomorrow and a 40mm prop.
                    My prop hasn't been wet in a while.

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                    • robby76
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 190

                      #11
                      data logger, watts up meter are excellent tools to show you load, kv, watts, pack .

                      the ONE you will hear from the pros is "start with a small prop". and when you do, keep a log book handy and after 30 seconds and coming IN, check your temps, watts, and whatever data is available including weather conditions. in two years now of electric offshoring have only lost one ESC due to not having my hatch taped.

                      the "pros" here know their bussiness and I appreciate all they do for us.

                      Thank you men & women.

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                      • domwilson
                        Moderator
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 4408

                        #12
                        I have the Skunkworks cat with a 9xl and it ran great with a hex 120 and a x637 prop. Just switched over to a 8xl with a hydra 120 but still using the x637. I believe the problem lies with being over propped. Try an x637 or x640. Run it on 4s1p lipos. I think you'll be happy. Also make sure your strut depth is not too low. 1/8" above the ride pads works best for me.
                        Government Moto:
                        "Why fix it? Blame someone else for breaking it."

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                        • domwilson
                          Moderator
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 4408

                          #13
                          Also this is a good tool for ball park figures...

                          Government Moto:
                          "Why fix it? Blame someone else for breaking it."

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                          • andym
                            More Go Than Show Prop Co
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 2406

                            #14
                            I know for a fact that a 9xl will pull over 150 amps for a short time before it stops, ran one on 5s lipo with a cf 48 prop in a triton, and with a x442 was 115 amps and loving it .

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                            • txboatpilot
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • Oct 2007
                              • 1494

                              #15
                              You need to disable the BEC and run a Reciever batterry pack.... If you are running more than 12cells on the 100A X-Power, it needs to be disabled...

                              Also part throttle running could have played a part...

                              I run a 30" cat with 9XL and CF45mm prop, on 2/7.4V lipos in series,,, Runs stong, all day long!! It has a CC120 esc, running a reciever pack and no bec....

                              Also really check to see where the water is entering from?? I like all my boats to return DRY!!! It is very important to eliminate that factor!!
                              Nothing like keeping you lipos warm and your prop wet!!

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