**Guys** help me build a boat DF Cyber Storm 33

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  • bill34207
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Dec 2009
    • 2553

    #31
    No offense taken LD. I just prefer to give advice with caution. And, am a firm believer that the cost of an extra $15 prop or two and working your way up is cheaper than a $150+ motor. I also tend to prop my own stuff to live through a two minute full throttle run. Boats being run in sport conditions of on the throttle off the throttle can usually stand a little more prop but running the 1/6 mile oval where the trigger gets pulled and held for the duration of the race tends to get things a bit warmer.
    I'm also a little confused by the boat running 6s 2p using 2 5000 ma and 2 2650 ma packs. If it's 6s 2p I'm guessing all the packs are 3s then run series and parallel? IMO mixing ma or even c rating in a parallel setup is inviting trouble as well.
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    • LarrysDrifter
      Big Booty Daddy
      • May 2010
      • 3278

      #32
      You are correct on the 6s2p set up. That Cyberstorm belongs to "Suckmywake", a member here and a personal friend of mine. He completed the build earlier this year and has been using the unconventional battery configuration since. The C rating is the same on all 4 packs as well as the voltage. He has not had one lick of trouble using the packs this way. We do not race, only sport run. If the OP wants to run a 2p set up in his CS, I suggest using the same battery configuration as weight and room becomes an issue in the smaller hull. Or, to be safe, to start, just use 6s1p using two 5000mah packs. Hes not going to get more than 5 minutes of full throttle runtime anyway with the voltage and kv he will be running.
      As far as prop, I suggested an X445 because thats what I recently used on a build a couple weeks ago. Its more than mild enough to get him used to running an FE boat that wont stress components. Im by no means insinuating(spelling?) that you are steering him wrong, Im just throwing another suggestion out there.

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      • pyroM!KE
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2011
        • 375

        #33
        When I get all my stuff in Ill see where it will balance out at..Im gonna try to stuff 6s2p in there but well see..The 3000mah 6s packs im looking at are 43mm tall..I think putting the motor as far forward as possible and putting the packs in the middle I can get them in there..Like said Ill see when I get everything..Im gonna make some dummy packs with the measurements and if it fits Ill then order the packs..
        Also guys..Im not a newb at building..I build large helis,airplanes,rc cars all of which are electric..Im just new to the boat scene.I understand the right setups and whatnot for electrics...Ill get it just like I want it eventually.. :)

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        • bill34207
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Dec 2009
          • 2553

          #34
          Haven't abandoned you or the thread, just been occupied the past few days and waiting for you to gather up your stuff to get started.
          I had built my share of planes before getting addicted to the boats, too. I blame the real addiction on finding a FE club to run & race with. If not for that I'd probably have a lot less boats than I do.
          The motor in my DF33 very far forward as well. (I mounted it where a glow motor would have went on the 4" rails) and run a pair of 4s 5000's behind it. It balanced about right in that configuration.
          Any progress yet?
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          • pyroM!KE
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2011
            • 375

            #35
            My hull and hardware will be here thursday and Im off friday and saturday..I guess Ill want to start by installing hardware first..I got the dual pickup rudder and I think it may not work with the trim tabs without notching out a bit..Ill see when I get it..Also Im gonna have to take some measurements when I get the hull to see what size packs I can stuff in there.Really untill I get the packs Im going to use, there wont be anything to do because Ill need the packs to see about the cg and mounting placement..Im gonna get some pics up here every step of the way..
            I already have my boat stand built and all the supplies for the build..The only thing I dont have is a prop or batts..My prop is being worked right now(ill have it next week x447/3)..Should have packs by next week as well..I cant wait to get the build going..Im so excited!!!!!

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            • pyroM!KE
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2011
              • 375

              #36
              Sweet...Got my stuff..Got the stinger and turn fins mounted..I was thinking..It it really necessary for trim tabs? I mean Im not gonna be racing, I will be doing sport-speed style runs..Dang this is one sweet hull..Looks fast just sitting there..Got my batts ordered..I got the 6s 3000 40c packs..Its gonna be tight but Ill get her done..

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              • bill34207
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Dec 2009
                • 2553

                #37
                The tabs will come more into play for setting the ride attitude than for turning. The turn fins come into play on turns. You can always try it without them and add in later if needed.
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                • pyroM!KE
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 375

                  #38
                  Yeah thats what I was thinking..Im getting a bracket built to extend my rudder back 1 1/4 inches ..That will put the Leading edge of the rudder just behind the drive dog..Ill get some pics when I get it back and installed..

                  Im just playing around with the placement..I think somewhat in this fashion is where I will be placing everything And Ill be able to adj between 28-30% on the CG.Ill mount some batt trays and whatnot as well.Also I will be laying down some glass on the motor mount, stuffing tube and just to reinforce .So how does everything look so far? Feel free to make any suggestions as Im not committed on that setup yet..






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                  • pyroM!KE
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 375

                    #39
                    I have a question about the stinger..The stinger bushing just slides freely in the stinger and on the flex shaft..Does this bushing just float in the stinger or are you supposed to fix it to the stinger..I dont know anything about these stingers..

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                    • bill34207
                      Fast Electric Addict!
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 2553

                      #40
                      It's as it should be and should slide freely on both. Most of the time when I'm getting ready to grease the flex shaft I'll slide the bushing onto the shaft and down to the stub. That way it gets more grease up the tube.
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                      • pyroM!KE
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2011
                        • 375

                        #41
                        Found my setup..Im gonna go with it..I can put in 6s packs and packs as small as 2s 2p and I can get her to balance with room to adjust either packs at 28-30%..Im making the servo plate rx box plate and the esc plate..Getting ready to get my glass on...Maybe the next couple of days Ill get my rudder and prop..This build is going alot smoother than I expected..So far anyway..






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                        • pyroM!KE
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 375

                          #42
                          Motor mount stuck down...FG strips through the mount..




                          Strips laid down..



                          Another layer on top of all that..

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                          • pyroM!KE
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2011
                            • 375

                            #43
                            Stuffing tube next..

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                            • bill34207
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • Dec 2009
                              • 2553

                              #44
                              You shouldn't have to worry about those mounts coming loose on you.
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                              • pyroM!KE
                                Senior Member
                                • Jan 2011
                                • 375

                                #45
                                Are the ez locks good for securing the canopy? Or what is the best way to secure the canopy? Tape will also be used of course..

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