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  • kookie_guy
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2008
    • 897

    #1

    EDF Boat Build

    I have a couple 64mm EDF's laying around, so figured I'd build an EDF boat. The EDF's are pretty decent, at 4s there's about 1000g of thrust each.

    The hull is going to be out of rigid insulation foam. 20" long, 10" wide.
    Motors - 2x 3500kv outrunners spinning a 64mm EDF fan each
    ESC - 2x 45A hobbyking ESC's (non water cooled)
    Battery - 2x Rhino 4900mAh 2S 20C (running in series for 4s)

    Here's the initial concept design. Everything is 100% to scale. Still have to add the steering mechanism, which will be like an airboat, so this can glide on land.
    Attached Files
  • bwells
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2009
    • 842

    #2
    What is the correct COG on airboats? I think I remember 20-40% but not sure. What is the COG you plan on?

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    • kookie_guy
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2008
      • 897

      #3
      Originally posted by bwells
      What is the correct COG on airboats? I think I remember 20-40% but not sure. What is the COG you plan on?
      I really have no idea. I will basically control it with battery placement. I have lots of room for movement.

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      • bwells
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2009
        • 842

        #4
        That was my thinking as well. I found that I need to move the batts all the way to the transom in order to get a 25% COG. I was expecting the opposite so I'm now cutting a rear bulkhead (crossmember) to get to that 25%. I wish I had checked that before construction. 2 EDF's will be interesting. I keep an eye out on this one.

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        • Boaterguy
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Apr 2011
          • 1760

          #5
          Will be following this.

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          • kookie_guy
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2008
            • 897

            #6
            Will be changing the steering. Initially was going to do a fin to direct airflow, but because the motor has the cone on the back, it would look weird. So I'm going for broke, and making the fans steerable. Thrust vectoring baby, lol.

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            • Boaterguy
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Apr 2011
              • 1760

              #7
              Good luck, just hope you have strong enough revolving mounts, so your edf's don't cone right off while running (I have exp with this)

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              • kookie_guy
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2008
                • 897

                #8
                Originally posted by Boaterguy
                Good luck, just hope you have strong enough revolving mounts, so your edf's don't cone right off while running (I have exp with this)
                Gonna design and machine a custom mount system. I have full access to a machine shop at work, so I can get creative. My plan is to have the shrouds mounted to a bracket. That bracket will then be on a post. The post will go down into the actual hard mount, and will run through ball bearings to make it smooth.

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                • bwells
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 842

                  #9
                  How do you plan on fastening all the equipment to the foam? Are you using the rigid stuff for insulation on a roof or the blue stuff?

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                  • kookie_guy
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 897

                    #10
                    Originally posted by bwells
                    How do you plan on fastening all the equipment to the foam? Are you using the rigid stuff for insulation on a roof or the blue stuff?
                    Using the pink foam stuff used to insulate walls.

                    http://www.homedepot.ca/webapp/wcs/s...k=P_PartNumber

                    Not sure about fastening yet. Will probably just use construction adhesive.

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                    • Boaterguy
                      Fast Electric Addict!
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 1760

                      #11
                      what I did is built an arc, on the floor of the boat, and a post on the edf, to provide two points of contact, but the post must be able to slide within the arc, and the arc must directly follow the path of rotation of the servo, attached is a picture.
                      Attached Files

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                      • sundog
                        Platinum Card Member
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 878

                        #12
                        I have an inexpensive EDF boat that uses motor mixing for steering - one motor will go faster than the other to steer. In an effort to improve the holeshot and steering, I am in the process of installing a small waterjet drive that should fix both problems. We'll see. Here's a stock photo - mine is red.
                        Legend 36 sailboat, KMB Powerjet Ed Hardy Viper, ABC jet pwrd BBY Oval Master, ABC Hobby Jetski, NQD Tear Into's, HK Discovery 500, MickieBeez pwrd Jet Rigger!, Davette/Gravtix jet sprint, KMB Powerjet Pursuit, NQD pwrd Jet Catamaran!,Steam pwrd African Queen, Sidewinder airboat, Graupner Eco Power

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                        • kookie_guy
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2008
                          • 897

                          #13
                          Finally made some more progress on the design.

                          Here's the overall shot....


                          Here are a few detailed shots of the rear mount/steering setup for the EDF fans. They will be linked together, driven by 1 servo. Mount posts go through 2 needle bearings each for low friction turning. I have the bracket already made from plastic, nice and light.


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                          • bwells
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 842

                            #14
                            Nice drawings! How thick of a boat are you planning on as the servo is 2"? Good job on the idea and keep up the good work!!!

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                            • kookie_guy
                              Senior Member
                              • Jun 2008
                              • 897

                              #15
                              Originally posted by bwells
                              Nice drawings! How thick of a boat are you planning on as the servo is 2"? Good job on the idea and keep up the good work!!!
                              thanks for the kind words. That's the great thing about solidworks, you get beautiful scale drawings, and you can see if everything fits and work before ever cutting any material.

                              Right now the hull thickness is 0.75" pretty well all around. But that's still flexible as I have not cut any foam. I will also be putting slider rails on the bottom, made from low friction plastic to save the bottom from scrapes if I run it on a hard surface. The servo (without the mounting tabs) is just over 1.5" long. I'll probably have the EDF pivot brackets cut on the CNC some time this week, so I'll post pics of some actual hard parts soon.

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