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  • martno1fan
    Banned
    • Jan 2011
    • 238

    #76
    Hi mate sory to hear you had problems.
    As for the carbon interfearing with the radio so long as the antenna is above the carbon it shouldnt be an issue,the deck itself is glass as you know so as long as its above that your fine.Which 2.4 radio are you using? as some dont work well on water.
    Cant help with the esc problem but im sure you will get it sorted.
    Mart

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    • Boaterguy
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Apr 2011
      • 1760

      #77
      Get an HK t6a radio, you can get the 4ch too, but the 6ch can be programmed computer wise. Never had a problem with them on the water, sure they aren't great but for 25$ you can't go wrong.

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      • martno1fan
        Banned
        • Jan 2011
        • 238

        #78
        Seeing as how the boat ran fine the first time out i dont think the radio gear is the problem.
        Mart

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        • FastVee
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2008
          • 649

          #79
          The weird thing on the radio is that it works on my other boats but not in this.

          it did the same on maiden, had to use sanwa then also.

          Radio is HK GT3B

          Uses the gt3 rx that gt2 radio also uses.

          Glad the esc´s have failsafe, but it takes 3 sec of no signal to kick in

          The sanwa works, but I use it to race my touring car and the rx´s are so expensive that I hate installing it on a boat cause it could get wet and that is 90€ gone.

          But this thing is lethal if it hits some1 so I guess I have to save money for another rx for my car.

          Maybe the esc problem is to blame here? -it could mess with the cheap chinese rx somehow?

          Maybe the lvc -if that is the problem, just messes with the signal-.
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          • martno1fan
            Banned
            • Jan 2011
            • 238

            #80
            Theres a few guys running my boats with that radio running with gas mototrs and they seem to run ok.Unless your rx is faulty i dont think its that,id rather think it could be the esc,your boat ran ok first time out apart from the one motor taking time to kick in which to me sounds like the esc rather than the radio system unless you were runnign the sanwa in the first video ?.
            Mart

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            • FastVee
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2008
              • 649

              #81
              I used Sanwa on the maiden also. Sanwa is also the only radio that worked with my touring car without extra rx cap and only one without single issue.

              But I still like the HK radios and will find a way of using one here. -Like you guys said it´s most likely the esc cause one left smoke out b4 the maiden. Will order new ones soon.

              I did try it again today and the other motor was on/off but I got some driving done and even a dive!(never thought that was possible with this size hull) Video later when I get back to home and get back to fast internet connection.
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              • martno1fan
                Banned
                • Jan 2011
                • 238

                #82
                So it is possible theres an issue with the HK radio,can i ask is the antenna above the hatch on the boat?.I know the antennas are short but if you attach the rx higher it should reach ok.Another way would be to pass the antenna through the hull at the transom above the deck lip maybe that should solve any possible issues with the carbon masking the signal.
                Mart

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                • FastVee
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 649

                  #83
                  Mart, the rx is glued inside of the hatch and antenna is outside of the hull(comes thru stig) -see pic at post #67
                  Last edited by FastVee; 06-12-2011, 01:12 PM.
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                  • FastVee
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 649

                    #84
                    Tested the new props today, sadly no gps or properly working electronics >:-o

                    viideo --->

                    Need to adjust the struts more down, but this really need a new esc, it must be damaged cause one of the motors works onlywhen it wants...-and that must also slow the boat.

                    It did feel faster then on maiden but no data to proof it yet.



                    -Pate
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                    Last edited by FastVee; 06-12-2011, 03:30 PM.
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                    • martno1fan
                      Banned
                      • Jan 2011
                      • 238

                      #85
                      It def seems to be a tad faster in the video but a little unstable,it might benefit by adding some weight to balance the hull further forward rather than angle the props down.Try a small bottle of water in the nose wrapped in bubble wrap just to test it ?.Hope you get the esc issues sorted because it looks like its going to be faster than you thought.
                      Mart

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                      • FastVee
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2008
                        • 649

                        #86
                        On this video the boat had extra 3s 5000mah 40c receiver pack that weights about 500g .it was in front of the motors. The batteries were also moved a few centimeters forward also.On the maiden it had no rx pack and the cog was much closer to transom then and it was much better handling then.The strut angle was a bit lower on maiden also, and the new props are barely biting water now.

                        I think that when both motors work at the same speed it will be much more stabil and a bit faster.

                        I will add weight in front if needed but the first thing i must change is the esc.

                        Also one motor makes a bit different noise then the other when spun by hand, need to check that also.
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                        • martno1fan
                          Banned
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 238

                          #87
                          Where does she balance at m8.Rather than change the angle of the props have you tried raising and lowering them keeping the angle parallell to see how she handles.
                          Mart

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                          • crrcboatz
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 914

                            #88
                            I would adjust the angle of both struts. Cock them back a bit ie negative and it will bring the nose down. Maybe your props are lifting too much. Need to consider them too. Remember that hull has a bottom with a buttload of lift anyway.

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                            • bill34207
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • Dec 2009
                              • 2553

                              #89
                              Originally posted by FastVee
                              Hey, Peter, no worries I like to see all offshore lookalikes I can!

                              -Pate
                              I've read through your thread and not wanting to jack it but thought you might enjoy this photo. My friend Scott's (tiqueman) HPR in the foreground with my 54" Arapaho in the background. It too is electric.
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                              My YouTube Vids

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                              • FastVee
                                Senior Member
                                • Aug 2008
                                • 649

                                #90
                                Mart, i dont know what the cog is now, when I get back to the boat next weekend I´ll check.

                                The struts are too high and there is a bit room to lower them and keep the angle the same. Will try every setting I can to find the perfect setup.

                                crrcboatz, will try that also

                                Bill, nice boats, any video?

                                Pate
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