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  • Eodman
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Sep 2007
    • 1253

    #16
    SJFE is the Traxxas esc the same one you referred to as the Novak EVX? Would you know the new part#????
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    • Darin Jordan
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      • Apr 2007
      • 8335

      #17
      Hmmmm... I wonder if somethink like this would work??




      The price is about right...

      You'd have to get rid of that rudder mount in the back... Or maybe use it to mount an dual outboard mount to... That'd put the outboards QUITE a ways back, however... Not sure if that's good or bad... A lot of the real thing have them hanging out there on extensions like that...
      Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
      "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."

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      • Eodman
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Sep 2007
        • 1253

        #18
        Ok the hull(MM) & motors are ordered(EP1's)

        Heres what we got:

        Hull Mean Machine
        Motor Aquacraft EP1's
        Esc Traxxas Marine EVX2 Steve & I spent 3/4 of a day emailing one another trying to ID this new esc! Thanks Steve
        Reciever Spektrum
        Servo Spektrum

        Now it's just wait until everything comes in. Could someone point me to a good trustworthy graphics company stateside. I'm an old fan of Jaguar Racing and want to do the graphics like Group 44 did their Cats! Green strips on white body with a leaping cat on either side of cockpit! I'd be willing to send the hull to them to get it right but just want to know I'll get it back and in one piece!
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        • Eodman
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          • Sep 2007
          • 1253

          #19
          Well my first package came today!

          The Mean machine & EP1's arrived now the fun can begin. I have some sanding & filling to do on the hull and cover!

          Will post pictures soon but in the mean time here's a few pictures of my inspiration for my graphics!
          Attached Files
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          • Eodman
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Sep 2007
            • 1253

            #20
            First Mock up pictures

            Well here's the 1st pictures of the EP1's hung on the 29" Mean machine!

            I have reworked the cover because of the wire locations & will post pictures later today(I hope).

            Tried the float test and batteries will need to be pretty far forward or maybe some lead to offset weight!

            Still don't have all the hardware -- waiting on the Traxxas Marine EVX from someone! Until I get all that at least set in the boat I really can't tell about balance!

            Can anyone see a reason my steering servo can't be forwardly located! Will the length of the servo rods greatly effect the steering response?
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            Last edited by Eodman; 10-07-2007, 12:53 PM.
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            • Eyekandyboats
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Apr 2007
              • 1921

              #21
              cool
              why are the so close together,
              each lower unit should be directly behind the sponson.
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              • Eodman
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                • Sep 2007
                • 1253

                #22
                Apparently, there are 2 schools of thought on outboard placement:

                1 school is mounted close together, the other is out on each sponson!

                Now this is my first build and not for racing so I elected to go close together!

                When I was young(late 50's early 60's)we had a summer home on a lake in Sullivan County NY & there were actually 2 cats on the lake that had dual Mercury's on the backends and they were close together..... so drawingn early life input I elected to go close together!

                If it doesn't work I can always change it!
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                • Darin Jordan
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 8335

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Eodman
                  Well here's the 1st pictures of the EP1's hung on the 29" Mean machine!
                  Hmmmm... That looks good! I may have to rethink my hull choice!


                  Originally posted by Eodman
                  Can anyone see a reason my steering servo can't be forwardly located! Will the length of the servo rods greatly effect the steering response?

                  Shouldn't be an issue at all... OPC tunnels have LONG steering rods for their setups...
                  Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
                  "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."

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                  • Eyekandyboats
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 1921

                    #24
                    Yeah my steering rods on my n2-opc are 10 inches long . hehe! but because its a push pull it wont matter low long they are.
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                    • Eodman
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                      • Sep 2007
                      • 1253

                      #25
                      That what I thought about being push/pull just wasn't sure!

                      I've added a few more pictures of the cover mods I've done! As you can see in the one picture I've cut part of the rear edge away & added an interior wall! When the motors are mounted the wires interfere with smooth steering so to give it more room I added an inch & 1/8th under cover!

                      As i go along my thinking is to cut holes in the top edge of the transom and pass the power leads thru soft tubing & add a little silicone to make a good seal!

                      I stole proboat's idea to keep the front of the cover locked in place, now I need to find a neat looking thumb screw (2) for the rear of the cover!

                      I'm just trying to come up with ideas for the servo in the last picture while waiting for the esc!

                      Also I need an antennea mount (small) for the edge of the hull -- I don't want to go thru the cover so it 's got to be small in diameter!

                      The more of the electronics I can locate up forward the less weight I may have to add!
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                      Last edited by Eodman; 10-09-2007, 11:42 AM.
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                      • Eodman
                        Fast Electric Addict!
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 1253

                        #26
                        Steven confirmed that he shipped the ESC out to me today .... now I've just need to wait for it & the Geko(gps) to come in & start working on placement of everything!

                        Has any one tried that two part flotation mix thats out there? As it expands does it expand too much and create bulges ... or.... would I be better of using the Great Stuff in the blue can! Apparently it is a more controlled expansion!
                        Last edited by Eodman; 10-09-2007, 11:41 AM.
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                        • Darin Jordan
                          Fast Electric Addict!
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 8335

                          #27
                          I'm of the opinion that you are going to want a servo and push/pull setup for EACH motor... I don't think a single servo is going to hold up well, or give you recise enough steering... Push/Pull means that a single motor has a rod pushing, and a rod pulling... so one rod is always in tension and the other in compression...

                          The way you have it here, I think your steering rods are going to take a lot of stress and also think that steering will be sloppy...

                          I'd go with two servos and a pair of steering rods for each motor... ESPECIALLY if you are using standard sized servos (under 50oz torque...)...
                          Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
                          "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."

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                          • Eodman
                            Fast Electric Addict!
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 1253

                            #28
                            Thanks for the advise Darin, I certainly have the room for two!

                            My problem is not knowing the specs on the servo's. They are Spektrums and I've been looking for the spec's must not be looking in the right spots! When I upgraded to the Spektrums(2) controllers each one came with the following servo's --- 1 Z270 and 1 Z570(I think thats the number)! The first is their standard race servo and the second is their high performance racing servo! If I remember right the 570 has a brass spline coming out the top while the 270 has nylon/plastic out the top! I'm not sure the 570's are home!

                            If you think I'd be better off with 2 so be it! Now whats the best way to wire them to the receiver?
                            Last edited by Eodman; 10-09-2007, 12:18 PM.
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                            • Darin Jordan
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 8335

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Eodman
                              If you think I'd be better off with 2 so be it!
                              I think you'd be MUCH better off with two... Otherwise, your outboards will flop around a lot... Those 270s and 570s sound like what came in my ProBoat Miss Bud... A pair of the 270s or ??? would be fine I would think... Not ideal, but adequate... for all our racing, it's been recommended for the OPC tunnels to not use anything less than 100oz/in torque... but my AquaCraft ProFisherman worked fine with the 270 in it... (push-pull, of course...)


                              Originally posted by Eodman
                              Now whats the best way to wire them to the receiver?
                              That's EASY!:
                              Last edited by Darin Jordan; 10-09-2007, 02:03 PM.
                              Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
                              "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."

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                              • Eyekandyboats
                                Fast Electric Addict!
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 1921

                                #30
                                two standard servos should be just great for that!.
                                I love the room in the MM hull.
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