Miss Bud Gen 1 Conversion

[TRXRUSTLER]

Well I picked up my Mamba Monster for my truggy yesterday, so now Im broke. Now I have to save up a little more money and I will start ordering parts. hopefully this weekend I could come up with some money to buy some glass. What is the best way to lay the glass in there, it is kinda hard to get all the way to the sides of the boat, cause the hatch cover doesn't open that wide? Also I have never laid glass before but I have used Z-poxy with glass, do I do it the same way or is it different?

Thanks, Chris

[izzy7771]

dont get discouraged. i am positive you will get it all lined out and will be super happy with the boat and all the hard work you put into it when you are finished. not everybody has a bud boat but you will. i am pretty sure they arent even made anymore. if you have bought the wrong parts you could always sell them in the swap shop. a reasonably priced item last every bit of 5 mins there. lol you may also find some really good deals by posting what you want to buy in the swap shop as well. also just fyi i bought the last carbon fiber i used i bought off ebay. it was enough to do 2 boats for under 60 bucks. cf cloth, epoxy resin, gloves, brushes, mixing cups, ect... everything you would need to complete. if i ever get around to finishing my bud i will try to post some pics. but i have had the hull for a while now with no progress. too many other projects.

[izzy7771]

blackcat is right. the regular fiberglass cloth will work fine. i think the cf is mostly cosmetic. plus its a pain to cut and to try to lay without screwing up the weave.

[RCKong]

I found this on FleaBay, Its a 5.7 oz - what I used, reletively inexpensive, and enough to do several boats

http://cgi.ebay.com/Carbon-Fiber-Cloth-Fabric-Graphite-47-1k-purchase-yds-/120587796631?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c1397c097

Oh and a quik little trick with the CF is cut out a paper patteren and trace it out on the CF upsided down, with a silver sharpie, . Then take some scotch tape, the thin stuff,1cm wide, and lay it out on the pattern centering the tape when possible. Next step is to cut out the pattern. The tape will hold the edges together very nicely while you work with it. install it tape side down. there should be very little tape left on the edges, but enough to hold it together. Best way I found to do it.

[TRXRUSTLER]

Thanks for the help guys, I will see how much I need and look for some CF online and will use the Finishing resin that I have to lay it in the hull. Hey izzy7771, if you could find sometime to take some pics of your boat I would appreciate it.

Thanks, Chris

[TRXRUSTLER]

Ok, I have been thinking what I am going to do so get ready here it is. I am not changing my mind unless you guys tell me somethings wrong.

Strut: http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pro...Sport-20-strut

I am going to use this glass inside my hull to reinforce it: http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pro...od=dh-hcar5010

Prop: http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXVST0&P=OW

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Power System
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Turnigy 120a Marine ESC
Feigao 8XL on 4s


This is my list and I am sticking to, Thanks everyone for your input I will post some pics when I continue further.

[izzy7771]

chris
i will try to make some progress on the boat this weekend. i will certainly try to post some pics. took me a long time to have the courage to dremel off the straight shaft and all that mess. lol. didnt wanna tear up a near perfect hull. tried to look at the links but they didnt work for me but from what the descriptions are it looks like you are about right on track to me. i think your boat is gonna be really quick with an 8xl on 4s. i actually bought the medusa motor for a hydro and it lifts the turnfin almost completely outta the water and makes is ride on the side on only one sponson. was really fast but not too good. lol. i already have a 9xl i will prob try in mine but if i were buying a new it would be an 8xl i think. i am really glad someone is doing this and posting info that is not a few years old. a lot changes in that amount of time it seems with fe boats. good luck.
izzy

[TRXRUSTLER]

That would be awesome!

Thanks, Chris

[TRXRUSTLER]

What is a good .150 3/16 flex/propshaft to get on this site, to use with the Speedmaster Sport 20 Strut.


Thanks, Chris

[izzy7771]

http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pro...oct-oc150L-24c

i would get this one already assembled by ose. you will have to cut to correct length but its really easy. i always solder the end that goes into motor collet so it doesnt fray. i usually get the hughey flex cables but they are outta stock at the moment. the octura should work fine though. make sure you get one that is for counter clockwise rotating props. that is the one in link.
good luck
izzy

[izzy7771]

i am pretty sure they assemble them with loctite 603 if ya wanted to assemble it yourself. i couldnt find that loctite locally. ose sells it though. i think you gotta scuff up the flex and the id of propshaft and clean both with something like alcohol and then fill propshaft with loctite and assemble. wipe off excess. imo heating it up to solder on propshaft will weaken flexcable. pretty sure if you searched on this there would be several threads with detailed info and pics. if the length of your flexcable needed isnt too long you could get the octura and buy an extra propshaft and use the extra length you cut off to make an extra flex drive.
good luck and hope this helps
izzy

[TRXRUSTLER]

Thanks when I get some extra money I will start to order some stuff. I have bought some fiberglass this weekend and did the inside on the hull last night. I put some flotation foam along the insides of the boat just in case. I will post pics tomorrow.

Chris

[TRXRUSTLER]

Here is some pics after the z-poxy has dried. I bought some fiberglass at Walmart and used it with some z-poxy Finishing resin. I think it would of looked better with the CF but the glass was a lot easier and cheaper. I paid $4.95 for an 8sq ft. piece( I will never have to buy anymore fiberglass, this is enough to do a lot of boats) I also put some more flotation foam on the sides of the inside of the hull for extra safety. I have to say that this glass has made the hull a lot stiffer, now I know why people would do this. Thanks everyone so far you've been a great help.

UPDATE: I just thought I would mock-up where my motor mount should go. I took my motor out of my truggy and put it in my mount just to see how much room I have to put my 4s up front, it is very close but it just squeezes buy. Does anyone know what the differences in length between the Feiago 8XL and the mamba 2200 is, because I want to make sure I install the mount in the right spot so when I put the feigao in here it will fit ok with the battery?

Thanks, Chris

[izzy7771]

feigao 8xl is 36mm od x 75mm length approx
1515 1y is 42mm od x 76mm length approx
you may want to consider another layer cloth and resin if still flimsy at all. especially in motor mount and stuffing tube areas. i dont think weight will be an issue. i run my lipos in my elam in the front like that too. i still have to add weight under front wing to prevent blow overs. actually i use zip ties and tie an adj wrench under there. lol. works pretty good.
uuuhhmmm!!! i would have to try that mamba motor in there. lol!!! get a water jacket from ose. you could prob never control it but it would be smokin fast. lol. 8xl would be better for the boat i am sure but i couldnt resist trying it out in there. lol thats really bad advice i am sure of it. lol
great job so far!!

[izzy7771]

I found this on FleaBay, Its a 5.7 oz - what I used, reletively inexpensive, and enough to do several boats

http://cgi.ebay.com/Carbon-Fiber-Cloth-Fabric-Graphite-47-1k-purchase-yds-/120587796631?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c1397c097

Oh and a quik little trick with the CF is cut out a paper patteren and trace it out on the CF upsided down, with a silver sharpie, . Then take some scotch tape, the thin stuff,1cm wide, and lay it out on the pattern centering the tape when possible. Next step is to cut out the pattern. The tape will hold the edges together very nicely while you work with it. install it tape side down. there should be very little tape left on the edges, but enough to hold it together. Best way I found to do it.

great tip man. i am gonna try it next time. the hairspray method didn work for me worth _-_-_-_