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  • SJFE
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Apr 2007
    • 4735

    #106
    Awesome man. Mine is 90% done. I am out of time to build untill the 5th now so it will be the 9th before I can get it in the water.

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    • properchopper
      rcgoatbuild@snotmail.com
      • Apr 2007
      • 6953

      #107
      re :

      Thanks !! You'll love this boat; plus it has that "scale look " that we both like. BTW, I noticed that you spaced your motor up so the coupler wouldn't hit the outdrive [ I assume that's why you did it]. I had the same problem : the coupler was right against the motor, bottomed on the shaft & was right up against the top of the drive.. To avoid spacing the motor up & raising the CG I shortened the motor shaft a little on the ole' bench grinder [shielded the bearing to keep grit away from it] , allowing it to be higher on the shaft. Your motor is taller, you might give this a try to keep the CG down some. I know Darin's the man with the plan here, but if I can help in any way let me know.
      2008 NAMBA P-Mono & P-Offshore Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder; '15 P-Cat, P-Ltd Cat 2-Lap
      2009/2010 NAMBA P-Sport Hydro Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder, '13 SCSTA P-Ltd Cat High Points
      '11 NAMBA [P-Ltd] : Mono, Offshore, OPC, Sport Hydro; '06 LSO, '12,'13,'14 P Ltd Cat /Mono

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      • properchopper
        rcgoatbuild@snotmail.com
        • Apr 2007
        • 6953

        #108
        Originally posted by properchopper
        Servo was weak, will free up the linkages/volt it up/ or replace with higher torque unit.
        Just freed up the servo linkages some & it seems much better !
        2008 NAMBA P-Mono & P-Offshore Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder; '15 P-Cat, P-Ltd Cat 2-Lap
        2009/2010 NAMBA P-Sport Hydro Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder, '13 SCSTA P-Ltd Cat High Points
        '11 NAMBA [P-Ltd] : Mono, Offshore, OPC, Sport Hydro; '06 LSO, '12,'13,'14 P Ltd Cat /Mono

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        • Darin Jordan
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Apr 2007
          • 8332

          #109
          Originally posted by properchopper
          Servo was weak, will free up the linkages/volt it up/ or replace with higher torque unit. THANKS, Bro !
          You're welcome! That's awesome....

          Servo... Do youself a favour (all of you) and spend the money on at LEAST a 90 in/lb torque servo... Hitec HS645-MG or equivalent is what the Nitro guys use... A LOT of handling issues can be solved by simply doing this...

          By the way... Tony... I TOLD YOU SO!! FUN, EH!???
          Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
          "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."

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          • Darin Jordan
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Apr 2007
            • 8332

            #110
            Originally posted by properchopper
            To avoid spacing the motor up & raising the CG I shortened the motor shaft a little on the ole' bench grinder
            That's exactly what I did... Actually... I've shorted the shafts on every motor I own... They are usually at least 3/16" or so too long... ON the SV27 motor, I trim it about to the flat... maybe a tad further... Keeping that steering block sealed really helps with maintaining the lubrication on the shaft...
            Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
            "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."

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            • properchopper
              rcgoatbuild@snotmail.com
              • Apr 2007
              • 6953

              #111
              Originally posted by Darin Jordan
              ..

              By the way... Tony... I TOLD YOU SO!! FUN, EH!???
              I just can't stop smilin' !!!
              2008 NAMBA P-Mono & P-Offshore Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder; '15 P-Cat, P-Ltd Cat 2-Lap
              2009/2010 NAMBA P-Sport Hydro Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder, '13 SCSTA P-Ltd Cat High Points
              '11 NAMBA [P-Ltd] : Mono, Offshore, OPC, Sport Hydro; '06 LSO, '12,'13,'14 P Ltd Cat /Mono

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              • properchopper
                rcgoatbuild@snotmail.com
                • Apr 2007
                • 6953

                #112
                graphics

                Here's how she looks with some simple graphics. Needed something bold to see her better on the course
                Attached Files
                2008 NAMBA P-Mono & P-Offshore Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder; '15 P-Cat, P-Ltd Cat 2-Lap
                2009/2010 NAMBA P-Sport Hydro Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder, '13 SCSTA P-Ltd Cat High Points
                '11 NAMBA [P-Ltd] : Mono, Offshore, OPC, Sport Hydro; '06 LSO, '12,'13,'14 P Ltd Cat /Mono

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                • Bill-SOCAL
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 1406

                  #113
                  How DARE you get an orange one!!!!! I have the exclusive rights to that color!! I'll have to contact Tower to issue you a refund and send you a nice white one!!!
                  Don't get me started

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                  • properchopper
                    rcgoatbuild@snotmail.com
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 6953

                    #114
                    re :

                    Originally posted by Bill-SOCAL
                    How DARE you get an orange one!!!!! I have the exclusive rights to that color!! I'll have to contact Tower to issue you a refund and send you a nice white one!!!
                    My boat is red. White was my first choice but no longer available.
                    2008 NAMBA P-Mono & P-Offshore Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder; '15 P-Cat, P-Ltd Cat 2-Lap
                    2009/2010 NAMBA P-Sport Hydro Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder, '13 SCSTA P-Ltd Cat High Points
                    '11 NAMBA [P-Ltd] : Mono, Offshore, OPC, Sport Hydro; '06 LSO, '12,'13,'14 P Ltd Cat /Mono

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                    • CarolHazlett
                      Junior Member
                      • Nov 2007
                      • 24

                      #115
                      Prop Question

                      Darin, which prop are you using? Since this is the SV27 set up I was going to use either a 42/55 or 440/3. I noticed most of the people are using 642's. Do I need to go prop shopping? Tell me soon so I can get one polished and balanced before our first race.
                      member P.S.F.E.M.B.C.
                      Sunny skies and smooooooth water...............

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                      • Ctonez
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2007
                        • 404

                        #116
                        Carol, you'll probably want a 642 in your prop box anyway.
                        I currently have my 642 mounted on the tunnel, as my 2 42x55's are on the LSH (SV27 power) and my SV27Spec boat, since those 2 classes have a spec'ed prop.

                        As far as I know, we haven't spec'ed a prop for Tunnel, and even though this gives certain club members an advantage, I prefer we keep it open.
                        Sounds like the X642 is a great starting point to me.
                        This class is gonna be alot of fun!

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                        • Darin Jordan
                          Fast Electric Addict!
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 8332

                          #117
                          Originally posted by CarolHazlett
                          Darin, which prop are you using? Since this is the SV27 set up I was going to use either a 42/55 or 440/3. I noticed most of the people are using 642's. Do I need to go prop shopping? Tell me soon so I can get one polished and balanced before our first race.
                          A 642 would be a good place to start... Might actually be too much pitch... I haven't used one so I'm not sure...

                          I used a 440/3 with good results...

                          Each prop seems to have plusses and minusses on these tunnels... getting a good balance between speed and handling is going to require some setup time... I don't really know which one is "best"... I'm still playing with it...

                          The SV27 motor is a fairly low RPM setup with gobs of torque... It seems to like diameter and blade-area... How you combine those I'll leave up to you for now... Some things are best discovered through trial and error, and I can't give up ALL the secrets just yet! I've already told Corey too much, and now he's whooping my butt every chance he gets!
                          Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
                          "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."

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                          • CarolHazlett
                            Junior Member
                            • Nov 2007
                            • 24

                            #118
                            Motor Mount

                            Darin, I noticed on your motor mount that you did not use a spacer plate. Did you cut your shaft instead? If you did, did that leave very much of a flat for the collet set screw? I am using the same REK mount from Ray Fuller that you are.
                            member P.S.F.E.M.B.C.
                            Sunny skies and smooooooth water...............

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                            • Darin Jordan
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 8332

                              #119
                              Originally posted by CarolHazlett
                              Darin, I noticed on your motor mount that you did not use a spacer plate. Did you cut your shaft instead? If you did, did that leave very much of a flat for the collet set screw? I am using the same REK mount from Ray Fuller that you are.

                              Carol,

                              Yes... I trimmed the motor shaft length down just to the beginning of the flat... I then extended the flat a tad up the shaft...

                              Another method that I've seen used and looks very clean is to use The spacer shown in the attached picture and is made by Integy for a Clod Buster. I saw this done on another site (thanks Jim!) and it makes some sense... though I prefer to keep the weight as LOW as possible...

                              Hope this helps...
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                              Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
                              "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."

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                              • properchopper
                                rcgoatbuild@snotmail.com
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 6953

                                #120
                                re :

                                Carol, I ran into the same situation. I taped up the motor to keep grit out of the bearing & ground the shaft shorter with the 'ole bench grinder. Did re-file the flat a little longer as well. I'm with Darin on keeping the CG as low as possible. I didn't feel too bad doing this on the SV27 motor, but grinding on a Neu may feel a little sacriligeous !
                                2008 NAMBA P-Mono & P-Offshore Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder; '15 P-Cat, P-Ltd Cat 2-Lap
                                2009/2010 NAMBA P-Sport Hydro Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder, '13 SCSTA P-Ltd Cat High Points
                                '11 NAMBA [P-Ltd] : Mono, Offshore, OPC, Sport Hydro; '06 LSO, '12,'13,'14 P Ltd Cat /Mono

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