Dual/Twin Drive Delta Force 33 (2x540L)

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  • mschaffer66
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2010
    • 335

    #151
    What kind of top speed are you figuring now? I think after reading this I'm going to give my Twin Titan a chance :)

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    • Jacked1
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2010
      • 772

      #152
      I have an idea for a twin motor boat to one outdrive. It would have two outrunners with replaceable shafts and you could just put them both on one longer shaft back to back and use a huge prop. Has anyone heard of that before? I think it would be a nice way to save some money on large scale boats. I am for sure going to try it out next season or if my gear drive doesn't work out on my big boat.
      Fleet: 55" Quad inline T600 Cigarette boat, Twin Mean Machine, Twin T600 47" mystery mono, 4082 Surge Crusher, 1717 8s Genesis, 4074 Villain, "mini mono", 52" Bonzi, Prather Funcruiser, 2 DPI 3.5cc tunnels, 5' Styrofoam recover barge

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      • mschaffer66
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2010
        • 335

        #153
        Originally posted by Jacked1
        I have an idea for a twin motor boat to one outdrive. It would have two outrunners with replaceable shafts and you could just put them both on one longer shaft back to back and use a huge prop. Has anyone heard of that before? I think it would be a nice way to save some money on large scale boats. I am for sure going to try it out next season or if my gear drive doesn't work out on my big boat.
        I have been told, not sure if this is accurate or not, that brushless motors can't run to the same spur gear, or output shaft or whatever because of them binding or something.

        I was never that interested in doing one to really check out the validity of that or not.

        Must be some truth to it otherwise it seems like you would see twin brushless RC cars...

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        • Jacked1
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2010
          • 772

          #154
          Yea i am worried about that. another alternative i might do right off the bat is have the motors inline and connect them threw the gear hubs and have a gear right in the middle of the hubs so they would always have to run at the same speed.
          Fleet: 55" Quad inline T600 Cigarette boat, Twin Mean Machine, Twin T600 47" mystery mono, 4082 Surge Crusher, 1717 8s Genesis, 4074 Villain, "mini mono", 52" Bonzi, Prather Funcruiser, 2 DPI 3.5cc tunnels, 5' Styrofoam recover barge

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          • obrien008
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2009
            • 132

            #155
            Originally posted by AlanN
            Are you running in Lake Erie? You have some guts!
            Hah I am actually, and ya its really hard on the boat, tons of hard roll overs, plus this boat is a dart and likes to nose dive once in a while, so I had to rebuild the nose, but I designed this boat for Lake Erie cause im up there all the time, thats the main reason for the twins, plus I wanted to do something a bit different.


            Originally posted by mschaffer66
            What kind of top speed are you figuring now? I think after reading this I'm going to give my Twin Titan a chance :)
            Got a GPS of 49 which isnt that great but its heavy as hell for a 33, and its only got 1 battery. I bet a 41 or 45" with 540XLs on 6s would easily get 60, im wishing I woulda spent a little more money for the bigger setup but owell.


            Originally posted by Jacked1
            I have an idea for a twin motor boat to one outdrive. It would have two outrunners with replaceable shafts and you could just put them both on one longer shaft back to back and use a huge prop. Has anyone heard of that before? I think it would be a nice way to save some money on large scale boats. I am for sure going to try it out next season or if my gear drive doesn't work out on my big boat.
            That would be cool, I saw a Huge twin HPR cat with 4 monster lenher motors 2 in each sponson inline with the shafts together, prob around $10,000 setup. Sick boat but it burned and I mean burned within the first 30 seconds of the video. I was thinking that the motors probably werent perfectly in sync which may have been why I didnt work, so be careful.

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            • AlanN
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2008
              • 334

              #156
              Well, I know my friend Howard already pm'd you but if you ever want to try a smaller pond give us a call...pm me or Howard. We live around the Cleveland area.

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              • Brushless55
                Creator
                • Oct 2008
                • 9488

                #157
                I've seen 4 motors running into one shaft to spin a big prop on a 50cc gas size plane
                but now they have motors that can put out the power of a 50cc that only one is needed now
                .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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                • Jacked1
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2010
                  • 772

                  #158
                  Originally posted by obrien008
                  That would be cool, I saw a Huge twin HPR cat with 4 monster lenher motors 2 in each sponson inline with the shafts together, prob around $10,000 setup. Sick boat but it burned and I mean burned within the first 30 seconds of the video. I was thinking that the motors probably werent perfectly in sync which may have been why I didnt work, so be careful.
                  I was thinking the same thing with big heli outrunners in a 40-45 inch cat!

                  You could really put some huge props on it like 60mm+ running at 32000 rpm which would be over 100mph prop speed unloaded. Get 2 x 6s 5000mah 45c-90c packs. Have one pack run each set of motors and 4 100amp cheepo escs. You would only have about 250 bucks in the motors and escs and be getting close to 9kw. Or you could get 200amp escs and scopions and really go nuts!

                  I daydream a lot about my dream boats and what i will do when i am out of college!

                  Oh and the reason i was thinking the 30 buck outrunners is they are only 30 bucks! hehe

                  Edit: I found some emaxxs with almost identical setups to my big twin mono i am building so i feel better now!
                  Last edited by Jacked1; 08-17-2010, 07:52 PM.
                  Fleet: 55" Quad inline T600 Cigarette boat, Twin Mean Machine, Twin T600 47" mystery mono, 4082 Surge Crusher, 1717 8s Genesis, 4074 Villain, "mini mono", 52" Bonzi, Prather Funcruiser, 2 DPI 3.5cc tunnels, 5' Styrofoam recover barge

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                  • obrien008
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 132

                    #159
                    Originally posted by Jacked1

                    I daydream a lot about my dream boats and what i will do when i am out of college!

                    !
                    Ha I feel you there, I might actually be able to get my hands on some neu motors, its pretty hard to build a FE on a college budget

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                    • Jacked1
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2010
                      • 772

                      #160
                      Originally posted by obrien008
                      Ha I feel you there, I might actually be able to get my hands on some neu motors, its pretty hard to build a FE on a college budget
                      It sure is!!! And i only have enough time in the summers and half the parts come from hong kong and take forever to get here so time is very limited too!
                      Fleet: 55" Quad inline T600 Cigarette boat, Twin Mean Machine, Twin T600 47" mystery mono, 4082 Surge Crusher, 1717 8s Genesis, 4074 Villain, "mini mono", 52" Bonzi, Prather Funcruiser, 2 DPI 3.5cc tunnels, 5' Styrofoam recover barge

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                      • Ralf
                        Member
                        • Aug 2010
                        • 46

                        #161
                        direct coupling is a way.
                        i coupled two Lehner 3040 in my mono for testing and SAW09. No problems. Oh, wrong, one problem: handle the power :)
                        high GPS-measurements but problems get her fine through the traps


                        Ralf
                        WR T-Mono 108.95mph

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                        • Jacked1
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2010
                          • 772

                          #162
                          Sweet! I am thinking i will make an outrigger with two or three inline or a two in each sponson of the hull in a cat for next year!
                          Last edited by Jacked1; 08-20-2010, 07:44 PM.
                          Fleet: 55" Quad inline T600 Cigarette boat, Twin Mean Machine, Twin T600 47" mystery mono, 4082 Surge Crusher, 1717 8s Genesis, 4074 Villain, "mini mono", 52" Bonzi, Prather Funcruiser, 2 DPI 3.5cc tunnels, 5' Styrofoam recover barge

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