1/6th Scale Crackerbox - Ruleset

[blizard05]

What about a bent shaft under the hull,prop paralel to hull?

[BOZINATOR]

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[Hydromaniac]

CB Rules draft

Guys this is NOT an approved NAMBA class, The rule set given are only a guidline for anyone that wants to run in an EXHIBITION CLASS at the 2010 FE Nats or perhaps in a club, The idea is to keep the boats similar in performance and somewhat scale in appearance. This is the rule set we plan to run at the 2010 FE Nats, If clubs want to follow they can, thats their choice, they may also deviate any way they see fit. You can build your own boats any way you like.

[RandyatBBY]

Thanks Rod that is a little better! after thinking You still have not given in to what I want at the nats but I will contunue on. Jim find some Pictures of what the Gas guys are dooing for hardware on the transom. I need to get a little work done! We need to keep it as close to the transom as possable too.

[blizard05]

I vote for the gas set up, tube on outside,close to bottom.hardware no more than 1 5/8 from transom. Send me your e mail, i will send pics of my 1/4 scale gas C boxes. I may be new on this forum, but I have over 20 yrs in rc boating. My 1/10 C box is hard to keep rite side up, neads a prop on the top as well as the bottom Larry

[chuckc]

I just don't believe this ? All of this crap about "let's do it this way", "I want it this way"

I'm glad to see, this is a bunch of naysayers.
Randy, all you want to do is bitch about anything with a straight shaft. What, you can't tune a boat in? And the rest of ya, want to play with a gas boat rules? WTF, if ya don't like a what ever class, than quit bellyaching, it's a fun thing. BTW, the max a crackerbox can be in REAL LIFE is 15.6, that = to 31.20" in 1/6th scale. So Boz, is the extra little bit to accommodate somebody, I don't know or give a flying you know what. My boat wil be 31.00", on the money, prop fully under the hull.

All I hear is CA boy's trying to give up some verbiage and trying to mess with what has discussed and have been given out as a National build, for whom ever want's to play. And yes it will be an exhibition boat at the Nat's.

Boz, you seem by what you write, you been around the block a few times, good, then , understand what we are trying to do is have a good time with a fun boat. Make it scale. Do it like the real boats. That's it, plan and simple. If you want to run a stinger off the transom, then you don't run with us, if you want to build anything other than the the spec's, don't run with us.

All I see is you want this and that, Randy want's to take his bat and ball and go home, cus we want it a certain way. I can't believe I'm watching people over the age of 55 act like poor spoiled brats......... You people in CA need to wake up, it ain't all going to be your way.........

[RandyatBBY]

No Bitchen, No whining My way or the Highway! I really do not see it any other way you want to be hard nose fine! I can too! I will have nothing to do with it any other way? I know what I like, I know what I do not like.

All I was asking was to run it my way No way I could win the class with only 50 % of my points But I could have some fun. This is a beter way to act raether than beeing hard nosed.

[BOZINATOR]

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[blizard05]

Maby we should hang back and see how the straight shaft fairs at the nats. However, I stil like the gas setup better,less fetching belly up boats. The bigest thing is deciding on the power,and battery type, nicad,nmh only?? They killed 1/10 scale, 1 1/4 gas is dying, lets not kill 1/6 before it gets started. BTW I'm not from Cal Larry Bottums up raceing

[Hydromaniac]

Let me address this in a calm manner, this was just a concept, a quick idea that took on a life of its own in a very short period of time. I as well as many others enjoyed crackerboxes in both the real and scale r/c types. We took the idea of a proven power system and and created a set of rules around that power system. We looked at several areas to create those rules, We took pieces of rulings from 1/10 past r/c CBs, 1/4 gas r/cs and rules sets of real crackerboxes of the APBA, We then created dementions set at 1/6 "scale" and built some hull guidlines, We used this as the direction as we want the class to be rather scale much like the 1/10 Scale hydroplane clubs have done, as it is working very well in those areas. Creating both great racing and boats. Of the main goals, it was best thought to try and maintain a rather loose scale class and keep in line with the original 1/10's with hope of bringing that type of racing back to life. The thought was it may work with larger boats. As this is just a concept idea we thought we could have some fun with it and if enough racers and builders were interested we could have a formatted guidline and run it at the 2010 fe nats, if clubs were interested they too could use this format as a starting point and adjust as they see fit. At this point in time this is in no way a NAMBA rules proposal only a beginning of a possible future class. Many bugs will need to be worked out and guidlines adjusted. I am only reffraining from allowing deviation from the rules set at the 2010 FE's as I fear that may run over in to other classes and could create other problems that would need to be dealt with. I'm not trying to be hard A$$ed it is that as CD of the 2010 Nats there is already a ton to get done and this is a very small issue that the majority opinion was to start here and keep in line with the original overall 1/10 Crackerbox design. We're not trying to be diffacult or piss anyone off just trying to get the ball rolling and have some fun. So please build your boats your way and we'll all have to see what works and does not work and go from there. Perhaps in the end we'll have created a fun class.

[Darin Jordan]

[sailr]

It may just be me but it seems there are more against the straight shaft than in favor? If it makes the boats more forgiving, etc., AND more people are familiar with setting up a strut behind the boat, WHY do we need to complicate things? Is this a true SCALE class or a proposed FUN class? If it's a FUN class, let's forget the straight shaft! Most of us probably even have the parts laying around for for a transom mounted strut.

[Hydromaniac]

It may just be me but it seems there are more against the straight shaft than in favor? If it makes the boats more forgiving, etc., AND more people are familiar with setting up a strut behind the boat, WHY do we need to complicate things? Is this a true SCALE class or a proposed FUN class? If it's a FUN class, let's forget the straight shaft! Most of us probably even have the parts laying around for for a transom mounted strut.

Thats not the case at all, there about 2-3 guys that are against the SS and over 15 that would rather run like the real ones and the 1/10s. But like I said folks may build how they see fit. How many are planning to run at the nats anyway? Its a mute issue if they are not going to come and race this class.

[BOZINATOR]

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[Hydromaniac]

Please sir...can we run the flat bottom instead of the 5 degrees suggested? Just like the real ones .....LOL I am so glad that we can build the boat our way (correct)......just forget about running it in nationals, no one has time to see what the "starting point" boat will look like What's with that.
I get it ....You are in charge and you are going to do it your way right or wrong. That's like throwing your baby in the ocean with a candle instead of a "life" vest....
You are a funny man with your merry men sitting on the throne LOL. I am going to say it now and after the nats,,,,,I TOLD YOU SO

jim.

Please by all means do as you see fit. As I undestand you won't please everyone but try for the majority.