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  • Brushless55
    Creator
    • Oct 2008
    • 9488

    #31
    Originally posted by j.m.
    Would this not do?


    I know it's an "L". But this motor is only 12mm shorter than a 540 XL. And most likely has more torque. Im not talking from experience, simply speculation, but I think it'd work great.

    I would stick with a 9XL as it will pull less amps than the 580L
    the 580s pull alot of amps..
    .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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    • G Doggett
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2007
      • 446

      #32
      I'm not interested in the 45mm motors for this boat, I will be using a 36mm KD36-60-11L which has 2200KV and a max amp rating of 55amps.
      I figure this motor will be low torque / high rpm ( 32560 rpm on 4S) so that I can use a small diameter prop to help reduce prop torque on this skinny hull.
      Maybe I should use Reddy's favourite X537/3 prop, but that doesn't have a 4 in it !
      Douggie - I haven't done any calculations, it's all just guesswork, but I will be using my Eagle Tree on the first runs as always.
      I suspect if it pulls much more than 50 - 60 amps it's a lotttery as to which expires first, the motor or the ESC.
      Graham.

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      • crabstick
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2008
        • 954

        #33
        Originally posted by G Doggett
        I'm not interested in the 45mm motors for this boat, I will be using a 36mm KD36-60-11L which has 2200KV and a max amp rating of 55amps.
        I figure this motor will be low torque / high rpm ( 32560 rpm on 4S) so that I can use a small diameter prop to help reduce prop torque on this skinny hull.
        Maybe I should use Reddy's favourite X537/3 prop, but that doesn't have a 4 in it !
        Douggie - I haven't done any calculations, it's all just guesswork, but I will be using my Eagle Tree on the first runs as always.
        I suspect if it pulls much more than 50 - 60 amps it's a lotttery as to which expires first, the motor or the ESC.
        Graham.

        Good motor choice Graham, I would be using the same school of thought, high rpm's small prop. X440/3 would be the prop id start with :P
        Matt.
        FE, Nitro and Gas racing in Auckland
        www.rcboats.co.nz

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        • Flying Scotsman
          Fast Electric Adict!
          • Jun 2007
          • 5190

          #34
          Originally posted by crabstick
          Good motor choice Graham, I would be using the same school of thought, high rpm's small prop. X440/3 would be the prop id start with :P
          To be honest I would use an 9 to 12Xl motor with 4 to 5S power but I know this was a budget enterprise...Keep us posted Graham.


          Douggie

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          • Brushless55
            Creator
            • Oct 2008
            • 9488

            #35
            Originally posted by Flying Scotsman
            To be honest I would use an 9 to 12Xl motor with 4 to 5S power but I know this was a budget enterprise...Keep us posted Graham.


            Douggie
            I'm with Douggie on this one!
            I had a KD540 11L in my revo and it did not last long, pulled much more than the advertised 55amps got hot and burnt..
            The KD 9XL is not much more in cost
            Last edited by Brushless55; 09-08-2009, 07:19 PM.
            .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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            • Brushless55
              Creator
              • Oct 2008
              • 9488

              #36
              and for only a few bucks more a real 11L would be a better choice over the KD
              http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pro...i-540L&cat=116
              .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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              • EPower
                Banned
                • Mar 2009
                • 391

                #37
                Originally posted by Brushless55
                and for only a few bucks more a real 11L would be a better choice over the KD
                http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pro...i-540L&cat=116
                a bit more then a few dollars double the price i think most of the people on this thread miss the point of what Graham is trying to do EL cheepo build

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                • Brushless55
                  Creator
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 9488

                  #38
                  Not missing the cheap build... The shipping from Hobbycity is high
                  after shipping the extra cost would be maybe 25bucks!
                  and actually could be less, may be only 15bucks
                  .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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                  • EPower
                    Banned
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 391

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Brushless55
                    Not missing the cheap build... The shipping from Hobbycity is high
                    after shipping the extra cost would be maybe 25bucks!
                    and actually could be less, may be only 15bucks
                    the shipping from hobbycity is very good actually, it cost me less to get one KB458XL from them then when i brought my etti 150 from OSE double the weight
                    i think we getting way off the real subject here

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                    • Brushless55
                      Creator
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 9488

                      #40
                      Originally posted by EPower
                      the shipping from hobbycity is very good actually, it cost me less to get one KB458XL from them then when i brought my etti 150 from OSE double the weight
                      :
                      I bought a $30 motor and paid almost 20 bucks to get it shipped within 5days From Hobbycity, I could have paid less but usualy wait about two+ weeks to get my things.. I've bought a few items from OSE and only paid 8 bucks for shipping that came in the mail in two days!
                      Just to say OSE shipping kicks!
                      but the KDs to rock if you get a good one
                      I did a budget brushless on my revo, and picked a KD6XL and it flipin kicks

                      and back to the budget..
                      .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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                      • EPower
                        Banned
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 391

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Brushless55
                        I bought a $30 motor and paid almost 20 bucks to get it shipped within 5days From Hobbycity, I could have paid less but usualy wait about two+ weeks to get my things.. I've bought a few items from OSE and only paid 8 bucks for shipping that came in the mail in two days!
                        Just to say OSE shipping kicks!
                        but the KDs to rock if you get a good one
                        I did a budget brushless on my revo, and picked a KD6XL and it flipin kicks

                        and back to the budget..
                        do you get a cut every time he sells something ??? you live in the states we don't

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                        • Brushless55
                          Creator
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 9488

                          #42
                          Originally posted by EPower


                          do you get a cut every time he sells something ??? you live in the states we don't
                          Where you live?
                          yep in the states his shipping is great and fast.. It's almost weird of how fast I get my parts from him..
                          and again the reason why I bought the KD6XL is I was building a budget Brushless Revo before they released the MMM Revo

                          So in the states the original L motor would be a good buy, but out of the states its still money saved for the KD..
                          .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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                          • G Doggett
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 446

                            #43
                            The motor turned up today so thats 10 days from my order to my P O Box at an Air Freight cost of $12.12. ( Hong Kong to NZ )
                            I think thats pretty damn good.
                            I've given it a quick inspection and it seems OK, bearings ( yes it has ball bearings) seem smooth, and the shaft spins freely, and it has the alloy end plates.
                            I've treated it to an OSE cooling jacket and might find time this evening to bolt it onto the mount.
                            I'm not looking forward to programming the ESC wiggling the throttle and counting the beeps !
                            Graham.
                            Last edited by G Doggett; 09-09-2009, 12:48 AM.

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                            • Brushless55
                              Creator
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 9488

                              #44
                              Great job and much cheaper shippijng than to the states..
                              keep us posted!
                              did you go with the 11L motor?
                              wish I would not have smoked my 11L, I would like to try it in my SV27.. it only had two runs, wish there was a cheap fix..
                              .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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                              • crabstick
                                Senior Member
                                • Jul 2008
                                • 954

                                #45
                                Originally posted by G Doggett
                                I'm not looking forward to programming the ESC wiggling the throttle and counting the beeps !
                                Graham.
                                LOL My heli/ plane ESC's I can remember the voltage cutoff programing tone and soft/hard cut tone lol

                                what i would do is put it in programming mode, and just let it run through the whole programming mode, to get a rough idea of the tones and then unplug, compare with instructions and then do it.
                                Matt.
                                FE, Nitro and Gas racing in Auckland
                                www.rcboats.co.nz

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