If Medicare for Everyone is So Bad, Why Does Every Nation Who Has It Keep It?

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  • Punisher 67
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    • May 2008
    • 1480

    #16
    Originally posted by Fluid

    Of course the level of public health care in countries with similar economic structure to the US sucks. Ask a Brit or a Cannuk what he/she does if they need critical surgery immediately.


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    That is definitely not the case at least where I live , the health care we get here is second to none and the best part of walking out of the hospital is the only bill you have is the parking meter . I wouldn't trade our system for yours for all the tea in China

    Actually Jay Alberta is much like Texas , we are famous for our crude oil and cattle...................
    Last edited by Punisher 67; 08-12-2009, 09:38 AM.
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    • domwilson
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      • Apr 2007
      • 4408

      #17
      If Obama wants to get support for healthcare reform from republicans, he should have them visit Kaiser-Permanente. He might get 100% approval then. They are the Taco-bell of healthcare.
      Government Moto:
      "Why fix it? Blame someone else for breaking it."

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      • Flying Scotsman
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        • Jun 2007
        • 5190

        #18
        Another point, what happens when your private insurer declares they are bankrupt

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        Well, what is the answer?

        Douggie
        Last edited by Flying Scotsman; 08-12-2009, 03:48 PM.

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        • Flying Scotsman
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          • Jun 2007
          • 5190

          #19
          Originally posted by Flying Scotsman
          Another point, what happens when your private insurer declares they are bankrupt

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          Well, what is the answer?

          Douggie
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          • Rumdog
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            • Mar 2009
            • 6453

            #20
            Theeeeeennn, you are SCREWED!!

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            • domwilson
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              • Apr 2007
              • 4408

              #21
              Originally posted by Flying Scotsman
              Another point, what happens when your private insurer declares they are bankrupt

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              Well, what is the answer?

              Douggie
              Funny you asked. My insurance provider just sent me a letter saying the company they go thru is no longer offering insurance to "our market segment." They got another carrier. But my benefits have changed. I called and inquired why. They told me that this one has a better track record of paying claims. Huh? Oh yeah. The previous insurer was delaying payments to determine if my pneumonia was from a pre-existing condition. I called them and told them, yes, I was breathing. I think it got paid, finally.

              Does that sound like a system that is working?
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              • domwilson
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                • Apr 2007
                • 4408

                #22
                I'm for some kind of reform. But if what I'm reading is true, that the current administration sites Kaiser as a model. Then I am worried.
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                • Flying Scotsman
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                  • Jun 2007
                  • 5190

                  #23
                  Markment segment..Toss these gentlemen and women into a PERFECT STORM, I would love to see the results

                  Douggie

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                  • AndyKunz
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                    • Sep 2008
                    • 1437

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Flying Scotsman
                    Another point, what happens when your private insurer declares they are bankrupt
                    What happens when the existing Social Security system is declared insolvent because the politicians have been sucking it dry for decades to pay for votes instead of not touching it like they promised at the beginning?

                    It's only 20-ish years away...

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                    • Flying Scotsman
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                      • Jun 2007
                      • 5190

                      #25
                      Taxes Andy and we all have to pay more for a realistic society in North America, if you want anarchy, not a problem.

                      Douggie

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                      • ozzie-crawl
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                        • Sep 2008
                        • 2865

                        #26
                        well greed is every were. a few years ago had to take my 3 month old son to a specialist, was told unless he has a operation in the next couple of weeks he would die, had no private health and waiting list was 6 months. so did what any father would do and told them i would pay the $7500 bill (this was 1992 so a lot of money)
                        took on another 2 jobs as i didnt have the money
                        found out later because it was a life and death case the hospital should have done it for free, greedy doctors playing with lives
                        mind you if they said it was 75 million still would have paid it some how

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                        • domwilson
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                          • Apr 2007
                          • 4408

                          #27
                          Stories like this chap my hide. Where I live, Doctors will do surgeries on immigrants or people from other countries for free. And it gets on the news. As a matter of fact, the local news is running a series of reports this week about how local doctors spent 10 days in quatemala to give the indigenous people some free healthcare. They seem to do it frequently. Helping people from other countries. But in all the years here, I have never seen a news report of an american getting a free major surgery. I guess we're not worthy.
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                          • Bill-SOCAL
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                            • Nov 2007
                            • 1404

                            #28
                            Well, I think that most of the stories you read are more the exception than the rule. Medical philanthropy does exists and I have seen many stores where it was not just the dreaded and despised non-Americans who were helped.

                            As far as free health care here in the US it is out there:



                            Plus in the last week or so there have been a couple of special traveling clinics set up both back east and out here in SOCAL that treated literally thousands of people for free.
                            Don't get me started

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                            • domwilson
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                              • Apr 2007
                              • 4408

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Bill-SOCAL
                              Well, I think that most of the stories you read are more the exception than the rule. Medical philanthropy does exists and I have seen many stores where it was not just the dreaded and despised non-Americans who were helped.

                              As far as free health care here in the US it is out there:



                              Plus in the last week or so there have been a couple of special traveling clinics set up both back east and out here in SOCAL that treated literally thousands of people for free.
                              I should have been a little more clear. I have never seen a local news report where a U.S. citizen received a free procedure. I am aware of the good that many clinics and hospitals provide. But here in San Diego, it seems to just happen everywhere else. Maybe, I watch the wrong news channels. and I've all but given up on the local paper.
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                              • Doby
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                                • Apr 2007
                                • 7280

                                #30
                                Actually Jay Alberta is much like Texas , we are famous for our crude oil and cattle...................[/QUOTE]

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