Will NBC Be Suprised - VOTE

[Darin Jordan]

I'm not putting this up for discussion, just for your own information. Do with it what you see fit...

MSNBC.com is having a live vote:

Should the motto "In God We Trust" be removed from U.S. currency?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10103521/

[H&MWill]

What a joke! Everytime I think what next.

[Doug Smock]

How long is it going to take before good people start "Going Postal"??

[Steven Vaccaro]

Just voted. This is starting to become ridiculous.

[AndyKunz]

86% say "keep it" right now. Hmmmm, almost sounds like a mandate! (A mandate being 50.1% according to the current thinking).

Andy

[egneg]

I voted on this quite some time ago - I am in the majority.

[domwilson]

Personally, I think these people got it all wrong. I think the separation of church and state was to discourage religious influence in the operation of the government. I don't believe it meant removal of any reference of God on every piece of government owned, paid for, representation, etc. Then there is the historical and tradition aspects....Don't these people have better things to do? Like donating their obvious free time to help someone in need, volunteer work at a hospital, feeding the homeless, making me a sandwich....

[Bill-SOCAL]

Personally, I think these people got it all wrong. I think the separation of church and state was to discourage religious influence in the operation of the government.

Actually it was just the opposite, the Founding Fathers were most concerned about the interference of government in religion. The whole idea was to set up a system where the government did not and could not influence religion. Sadly, many have turned that around and seem intent on having religion influence government.

It might interest people to know that the Founding Fathers did not use this term, it did not appear on money until 1864 and did not become the National Motto until 1956.

The motto first appeared on a United States coin in 1864, but In God We Trust did not become the official U.S. national motto until after the passage of an Act of Congress in 1956. It is codified as federal law in the United States Code at 36 U.S. 302, which provides: "'In God we trust' is the national motto."

Sort of like "Under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance. The guy who wrote it, a MINISTER, did not use the term. It was added by Congress in the 50's to make certain people knew we were not a bunch of God-da%*ed Commies!!

MSNBC has had this, or similar polls running for a few years now. Pretty much the same results every time.

[domwilson]

Actually it was just the opposite, the Founding Fathers were most concerned about the interference of government in religion. The whole idea was to set up a system where the government did not and could not influence religion. Sadly, many have turned that around and seem intent on having religion influence government.

It might interest people to know that the Founding Fathers did not use this term, it did not appear on money until 1864 and did not become the National Motto until 1956.



Sort of like "Under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance. The guy who wrote it, a MINISTER, did not use the term. It was added by Congress in the 50's to make certain people knew we were not a bunch of God-da%*ed Commies!!

MSNBC has had this, or similar polls running for a few years now. Pretty much the same results every time.

You are correct. My mistake. I should have wrote to discourage government intervention in the practice of religion. Should have remembered why those people came over here on the Mayflower in the first place.

[NorthernBoater]

The only thing that mentions religion is in the Bill of Rights 1st Amendment. The founding fathers did not state that religion should be taken out of the government entirely, only that people should be free to choose whatever religion they want to.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

[Bill-SOCAL]

Again, you have this backwards, they were trying to keep government out of religion, not religion out of government. But once you separate them it does not matter which direction you come from to try to introduce one into the other.

They made them separate and I cannot see any good reason to question their good judgment in this case.

[RCprince]

We should have impeached BUSH for saying "GOD" sent him. HIS "GOD" cost a lot of people to lose their lives.

[domwilson]

So Bill, If MSNBC has run this poll before. What do you think their intent, if any, may be?

[Darin Jordan]

We should have impeached BUSH for saying "GOD" sent him. HIS "GOD" cost a lot of people to lose their lives.

So did Bin Laden's and Sadam Husain's... And theirs struck first... and are still striking... are are RESPONSIBLE for ours that have died...

You know... these same type of lame, isolationist attitudes existed in the early part of the 20th century... Right up until it cost a whole mess of other American lives at Pearl Harbor... And I suppose Bush is responsible for the Japanese doing that too...

GOD Bless AMERICA!

[RCprince]

Let me see where this 6 degrees of separation lies.



Oh Sh** that's GW secretary of defense meeting with Saddam (what a nation to nation handshake) Under his father GHWB administration. I bet I can find a connection to Pearl harbor with grand daddy, Prescott Bush