A better country....

**RCprince** · 11-07-2008, 03:20 PM

Even instincts can be tamed, and we have the ability to think rational and act irrational.

Dog can't stop kissing cat

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qlyqyWp2yk

**Flying Scotsman** · 11-07-2008, 03:23 PM

Avanti, your boat knowledge is superb. Just cool the jets on the political forum. Also your avatar is not cool.
Take care

Douggie

**Ub Hauled** · 11-07-2008, 04:16 PM

Originally posted by Darin Jordan

In our home, we have no "racism"... and yet, my kids discovered that there were differences and gravitated away from some of those, until we intervened and explained to them that they were focusing on the wrong things... They now see beyond the skin color or race and there is no issue...

But then, we live without a lot of external family influences that might otherwise introduce ideas into their heads that they didn't originally have, or to reinforce natural concerns before we, as caring parents, have a chance to discuss with them and help point them to look deeper...

Just my experience... Your mileage may vary...

Darin, your kids may be older then mine, I have not seen my kids have that kinda reaction yet... it may still to come... and then I'd do the same thing you did.

**Darin Jordan** · 11-07-2008, 04:23 PM

Originally posted by Ub Hauled

Darin, your kids may be older then mine, I have not seen my kids have that kinda reaction yet... it may still to come... and then I'd do the same thing you did.

Mine are now 9 and 7... Unfortunately, we still have to remind them from time to time, since their schoolmates can send home undesired ideas now and then... So far, so good, however.

I look forward to the day when people stop focusing on the differences so much, and start focusing on how we are the same. Might be a long time coming, from the sounds of it...

**Avanti** · 11-07-2008, 04:33 PM

Originally posted by Flying Scotsman

Avanti, your boat knowledge is superb. Just cool the jets on the political forum. Also your avatar is not cool.
Take care

Douggie

I feel like Charlie Brown, whys everybody always picking on me

I already changed my avatar once, I will consider changing it again, but only because your a Scot (my father and grandmother were born in Edinburgh, I have a ton of family there).

**Flying Scotsman** · 11-07-2008, 05:09 PM

Originally posted by Avanti27offshore

I feel like Charlie Brown, whys everybody always picking on me

I already changed my avatar once, I will consider changing it again, but only because your a Scot (my father and grandmother were born in Edinburgh, I have a ton of family there).

Your new avatar is fantastic

Douggie

**Spot Me 2** · 11-07-2008, 05:57 PM

Originally posted by Darin Jordan

with policies that the Left proposes that simply WON'T WORK! .

Sure they do. Just look at the inner city of any major city in the US. Their policies have been working great!!!

Wellfare is now a way of life. Let continue the free handout for doing nothing. It's been working so well.

**NorthernBoater** · 11-07-2008, 06:59 PM

If Obama is so great then why do I always feel like I am getting a blank stare when I ask someone why is so great? It seems that the general answer is that they like what he stands for and do not have any reason for it. So far there has been no links that have shown what is so great about Obama. There have been plenty of links that have portrayed him in a negative way. He voted for all the tax increases and against the tax cuts.

**Avanti** · 11-07-2008, 07:04 PM

Originally posted by Flying Scotsman

Your new avatar is fantastic

Douggie

I thought you might like it

**AndyKunz** · 11-07-2008, 08:27 PM

Originally posted by Quicksilver

and dont give me some hippie traitor speak, by best friend is on a special ops mission right now in Iraq and I'd give my life for this country but even he knows he's just doing his job and not winning a damn thing

OK, so now even Time (left) and Newsweek (not quite as left) are admitting that the buildup was good and effective. How come your buddy isn't winning anything? Are you referring to a lottery, or to the military successes that the Iraqi Army is having (with and without our help)?

Andy

**AndyKunz** · 11-07-2008, 08:43 PM

Originally posted by Spot Me 2

Sure they do. Just look at the inner city of any major city in the US. Their policies have been working great!!!

Wellfare is now a way of life. Let continue the free handout for doing nothing. It's been working so well.

I was a Bus Pastor for my church for the year prior to moving to IL. My route was in the "bad" parts of Bethlehem, PA. I had to deal with racism every day with these kids, and yes, it was taught to them by their parents. The Puerto Ricans and blacks hated each other - but some of them because best friends that year. There were 5-8 whites on the bus, and 40-50 of other backgrounds (yup, I was definitely a minority). Most of the kids' families were pro-Obama because "he's gonna deliver us" or "he's just like us" - because their teachers told them that. A few were anti-Obama because "he's just like us - my parents want somebody who grew up in a stable home, whose mother didn't have a bunch of lovers, who doesn't have to play black against white." But those were the kids whose parents, though imperfect (just like me!), wanted to hold a higher standard up for their kids.

Ex-president Clinton disgusts me. It's not fun to have to tell your kids what a b***-job is, or oral s**. I sure hope we aren't heading in that direction again, but I have a feeling it's going to be something along those lines, maybe worse. Maybe that's what The Muslim Messiah was saying when he was talking about being like JFK.

President Bush has his failings too (just like you and me) but at least he's not known around the world as a philanderer. He's a man that other countries respect, even if they dislike other things about him.

Remember who brought racism into the election. It wasn't a white guy!

Andy

**Flying Scotsman** · 11-07-2008, 08:54 PM

Andy, you are illuminating as usual, but some of your comments in regards to Clinton are off the wall. We are all human...Mea Culpa
I will always love your point of view...DISCOURSE

Douggie

**RCprince** · 11-07-2008, 08:59 PM

Originally posted by AndyKunz

The Muslim Messiah

Andy

Where would you like me to start at the crusaders, so I can impose on you the historical facts of Christianity and Islam they both are like democrats and Republicans... Selling people pipe dreams.

**Flying Scotsman** · 11-07-2008, 09:12 PM

Originally posted by RCprince

Where would you like me to start at the crusaders, so I can impose on you the historical facts of and Christianity and Islam they both are like democrats and Republicans... Selling people pipe dreams.

Wo wo Master Prince. History was my BA , The Crusaders were a bunch of idiots,

Douggie

**rockwerks** · 11-07-2008, 09:13 PM

As long as we are off on tangents.....did you know that ts estimated more people where slaughtered under the guise of Christianity during the crusades than all wars combined since............interesting facts are funi

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