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  • m4a1usr
    Fast Electric Addict
    • Nov 2009
    • 2038

    #1

    Obamas accountablity?

    Well now that we are more then 60 days in to the eco disaster in the gulf of Mexico and the end is literaly not in sight do you think Obama will be held accountable for the federal response to the problem? Bush had his feet held to the coals by the country over Katrina, you guys remember? His adminstration was the fault but he was ultimately held liable by the people and the press. Now its fair play to have the shoe on the other foot. Or is there another set of rules to be obeyed by the Democrats and or liberals? Does Obama have a "get out of jail" card to trump the dissenting public with because the press wants something more? The worst enviornmental disaster in history is occuring literaly before our eyes and it should be nothing that could be dodged or not held accountable for. Lets see how the adminstration is portrayed in the months to come. This could have severe consequences for re election if the country is of a fair mind. Or would that be asking too much from the sheeple?


    John
    Change is the one Constant
  • Steven Vaccaro
    Administrator
    • Apr 2007
    • 8720

    #2
    Come on John, you know Obama is a God. Untouchable. Plus today he said he's ready to kick "ASS". I just hope when he does show up to kick someones "ASS" its a fair fight.
    Steven Vaccaro

    Where Racing on a Budget is a Reality!

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    • bwells
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2009
      • 842

      #3
      So far Obama has fined BP, got his Boot on their throat, and going to kick some ass. What more do you want?

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      • Rumdog
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Mar 2009
        • 6453

        #4
        Tell me, what did he do wrong? Go ahead blame him. Ridiculous. What more can he as president do? What would YOU have done? Do you think that the gov't isn't working thier asses off trying to find a fix for this? Maybe he should use his magic presidential wand to plug up that hole. The problem is, as of now there is no REAL fix. Also, there are not nearly enough resources to aid in cleanup.

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        • Steven Vaccaro
          Administrator
          • Apr 2007
          • 8720

          #5
          How about for starters allowing states to try to stop the flow to shore, Like Jindal?
          Steven Vaccaro

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          • Steven Vaccaro
            Administrator
            • Apr 2007
            • 8720

            #6
            Originally posted by Rumdog
            Tell me, what did he do wrong? Go ahead blame him. Ridiculous. What more can he as president do? What would YOU have done? Do you think that the gov't isn't working thier asses off trying to find a fix for this? Maybe he should use his magic presidential wand to plug up that hole. The problem is, as of now there is no REAL fix. Also, there are not nearly enough resources to aid in cleanup.
            So its ok to blame Bush for a natural disaster, but Obama can't be blamed for lack of reaction to the man made disaster? Obama is more of a God than I thought.
            Steven Vaccaro

            Where Racing on a Budget is a Reality!

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            • domwilson
              Moderator
              • Apr 2007
              • 4408

              #7
              I'd like to see him with a diving suit, a mallot and a really big cork...
              Government Moto:
              "Why fix it? Blame someone else for breaking it."

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              • Steven Vaccaro
                Administrator
                • Apr 2007
                • 8720

                #8
                Originally posted by domwilson
                I'd like to see him with a diving suit, a mallot and a really big cork...
                That would make for a funny news paper style cartoon picture.
                Steven Vaccaro

                Where Racing on a Budget is a Reality!

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                • domwilson
                  Moderator
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 4408

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Steven Vaccaro
                  That would make for a funny news paper style cartoon picture.
                  Maybe he's doing as we speak?
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                  • m4a1usr
                    Fast Electric Addict
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 2038

                    #10
                    Originally posted by bwells
                    So far Obama has fined BP, got his Boot on their throat, and going to kick some ass. What more do you want?
                    Define kick some ass? You mean let his administrators get further into bed with the oil companies? Or have you forgotten the headlines from a few weeks ago where the press scorned the federal agencies responsible for, but not conducting adequate inspections (that BTW where required by federal law) that might have put pressure on the contractors and sub contractors to monitor their operations more closely?

                    This in going to be known as the worst ecological disaster to have occured on the planet, shy of an extinction event like the asteriod that killed the dinasours, if deliberate action is not taken. Its already the worst oil spill in the US history. Lets not down play that fact!

                    This is the worst oil spill to have ever occured in US history!


                    That alone speaks volumes. BP says the well will not be plugged until August. We are at the beginning of June. So double (AT LEAST!) what has been washing up on American shores. Double the pain and agony those very people whose lively hood depends on earning their living off the sea. Right now the focus is on short term implications but the scientific community is beginning to see that this disaster is likely to be decades long in remedy.

                    The ecological impact of this will likely only be known in 20 or 30 years. How much money has been paid out from the fines imposed upon the last known worst oil spill? You know. The Exxon Valdez? Last I heard not a single penny in the levied fines has been paid? $750 million dollars! So we can expect more from our newly elected officials? Go ahead defend them. They are nothing more then current examples of past government failures? But go ahead and tell us how much better then past administrations they are. Then look in the mirror. Whats changed? Thats what I thought. You dont have an answer do you?

                    John
                    Change is the one Constant

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                    • m4a1usr
                      Fast Electric Addict
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 2038

                      #11
                      Sorry bwells if it appears I am using you as my target. I am not. Your words were perfect to use in my explanation and they lent well with the context. Not an attack on you.


                      John
                      Change is the one Constant

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                      • domwilson
                        Moderator
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 4408

                        #12


                        There's been problems for a while.
                        Government Moto:
                        "Why fix it? Blame someone else for breaking it."

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                        • BHChieftain
                          Fast Electric Addict
                          • Nov 2009
                          • 1969

                          #13
                          With Katrina FEMA bungled the operation when they were told to execute. What government resources are being asked for but are not being provided for the leak? I don't see any execution issues on the gov side at the moment.

                          I don't think either situation is a conservative or a liberal issue-- it is about competently executing against a plan.

                          You can debate what is the best plan, but that pretty much breaks down any comparison of the two situations.

                          IMHO

                          Chief

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                          • domwilson
                            Moderator
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 4408

                            #14
                            Originally posted by BHChieftain
                            With Katrina FEMA bungled the operation when they were told to execute. What government resources are being asked for but are not being provided for the leak? I don't see any execution issues on the gov side at the moment.

                            I don't think either situation is a conservative or a liberal issue-- it is about competently executing against a plan.

                            You can debate what is the best plan, but that pretty much breaks down any comparison of the two situations.

                            IMHO

                            Chief
                            Excellent point. FEMA screwed up.
                            Government Moto:
                            "Why fix it? Blame someone else for breaking it."

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                            • Steven Vaccaro
                              Administrator
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 8720

                              #15
                              Originally posted by BHChieftain
                              What government resources are being asked for but are not being provided for the leak? I don't see any execution issues on the gov side at the moment.
                              Do a google search for "jindal asks for barriers", you will find a bunch of things being asked for, from the Feds and much feet dragging.
                              Steven Vaccaro

                              Where Racing on a Budget is a Reality!

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