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  • Rumdog
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Mar 2009
    • 6453

    #16
    Who are the "we" that shrare the same judeo-christian beliefs? You'd have a hard time finding a room full of people in the U.S. that have the same religious beliefs. Religion and politics just do not mix PERIOD.

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    • Darin Jordan
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      • Apr 2007
      • 8335

      #17
      I'd just blame everything on the previous administration...

      That way, I could make whatever stupid, illogical moves I want, and I could still get over 50% of the country to blindly support me...
      Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
      "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."

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      • domwilson
        Moderator
        • Apr 2007
        • 4408

        #18
        Originally posted by m4a1usr
        Thats a very easy one to answer. Since supporting Isreal's soviergnty over the decades that one country has been the bastian of democracy in the middle east. We share military intelligence, have formed business partnerships, train our forces in joint operations rangeing thru out the multi services. Their society is almost 100% in agreement that we are NOT the bad guys in the world. Here's a little background just an FYI read. They have stood by us while the rest of the Arab countries denounce us as the great evil. And for the most part we share the same judeo-christian beliefs (not 100%). We have agreements with them that bind us as well. Now the Anti God folks, both domestic and abroad, hate that. A world united by faith is threatening. Why its down right social control!!

        John


        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_...ates_relations
        We have business and political relations with just about every nation in the middle east. Islam is not an anti-god or anti-christian religion.
        We furnish arms to many of the nations in that area. We train many of their military personnel both here and abroad. Most countries that denounce the U.S, do it because of our support for Israel and their policies. What is almost always mentioned in a terrorist threat? Israel.
        Not down on Israel, just tryin' to figure out why they deserve special treatment. By the way, look up U.S.S Liberty....

        Government Moto:
        "Why fix it? Blame someone else for breaking it."

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        • domwilson
          Moderator
          • Apr 2007
          • 4408

          #19
          Originally posted by Darin Jordan
          I'd just blame everything on the previous administration...

          That way, I could make whatever stupid, illogical moves I want, and I could still get over 50% of the country to blindly support me...
          Sad, but true...
          Government Moto:
          "Why fix it? Blame someone else for breaking it."

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          • m4a1usr
            Fast Electric Addict
            • Nov 2009
            • 2038

            #20
            Who are the "we" that share the same judeo-christian beliefs?
            Those in America that are religous. Unless there has been some major change recently I am unaware of, those of faith outnumber those who have none in the USA.


            You'd have a hard time finding a room full of people in the U.S. that have the same religious beliefs. Religion and politics just do not mix PERIOD.
            The statement I reffered to was a generalism of Catholicism. Catholics, Baptists, New Age, Mormons, 7th day, etc.....the list is long that hold Jesus Christ as their saviour. In essence parallel to the Jew's. And when you say religion and politics dont mix its in this country that it doesnt work. The nation of Isreal has no seperation of religion and state and if you go into the Arab nations its accepted as the norm for Muslim politicians to practice their faith repeatedly on a daily basis. There are countries today that hold prayer when their government convenes. We swear on a bible to tell the truth when in court, our money says in god we trust. We have just been brainwashed to believe god needs to be out of government. Because then we would need to obey Gods word, 10 commandents, Disciples teachings, etc. Live moraly? A set of rules the supreme court could not change?

            I'm not a religous guy. Used to be one. Grew up that way. Now I'm the biggest heathen this side of hell. But I understand the significance and importantance of accepting a faith to live by. Thats a good thing for people to have. To borrow some words, Man does not live by bread and water.

            John
            Change is the one Constant

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            • AndyKunz
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              • Sep 2008
              • 1437

              #21
              Originally posted by Rumdog
              Who are the "we" that shrare the same judeo-christian beliefs? You'd have a hard time finding a room full of people in the U.S. that have the same religious beliefs. Religion and politics just do not mix PERIOD.
              That's pretty funny! Every Sunday morning, Sunday night, and Wednesday night I get together with about 250 other people who hold the same religious beliefs as me. And I know of lots of others all around this county, state, and country just like that. Why, I could even go back to NJ and site down with about 800 others.

              That doesn't mean we think the same on every single matter, but I think you'd find the only thing uniting just over 50% of Congress is "He's not Bush."

              As for supporting Israel, John summed it up pretty nicely. His comments on Israel pretty closely parallel the Republic of China (aka Taiwan).

              Andy
              Spektrum Development Team

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              • AndyKunz
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                • Sep 2008
                • 1437

                #22
                Islam is not an anti-god or anti-christian religion.
                Why is it that they refer to US troops (not missionaries) as "Crusaders" then?

                Islam is about world domination, Dom. That's why they were founded.

                Andy
                Spektrum Development Team

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                • domwilson
                  Moderator
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 4408

                  #23
                  Originally posted by AndyKunz
                  Why is it that they refer to US troops (not missionaries) as "Crusaders" then?

                  Islam is about world domination, Dom. That's why they were founded.

                  Andy
                  Simply not true. While some believe that is the goal of "Radical" Islam. the same can be said of just about every religion. You do know that Jesus is a very respected "Prophet" in the Muslim religion? Anyways time to get back on topic.
                  Government Moto:
                  "Why fix it? Blame someone else for breaking it."

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                  • Bill-SOCAL
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                    • Nov 2007
                    • 1404

                    #24
                    Originally posted by AndyKunz
                    Islam is about world domination, Dom. That's why they were founded.

                    Andy

                    Some interesting quotes:

                    "The messenger of Allah said: "Islam is to testify that there is no god but Allah and Muhammad is the messenger of Allah, to perform the prayers, to pay the zakat, to fast in Ramadhan, and to make the pilgrimage to the House if you are able to do so." He said: " You have spoken rightly", Jebreel (Gabriel) from Number 2 of "Al-Nawawi's Forty Hadiths."
                    "If anyone harms (others), God will harm him, and if anyone shows hostility to others, God will show hostility to him." Sunan of Abu-Dawood, Hadith 1625.
                    "Those who believe (in the Quran), and those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Christians...and (all) who believe in God and the last day and work righteousness, shall have their reward with their Lord; on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve." The Qur'an, 2:62
                    "Jim Jones, David Koresh and Meir Kahane do not typify Christianity and Judaism in the eyes of the civilized West, but those same eyes are prone to see Osama bin Laden and Mullah Muhammad Omar as typifying Islam," Richard Bulliet
                    A couple of decent references about Isalm:

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                    Don't get me started

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                    • domwilson
                      Moderator
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 4408

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Bill-SOCAL
                      Some interesting quotes:









                      A couple of decent references about Isalm:

                      BTV168 adalah situs slot online resmi dan terpercaya yang menawarkan beragam permainan gacor dari Link Slot88, menjamin setiap kemenangan pemain dibayar kontan dan tanpa penundaan.


                      http://islamworld.net/

                      Thank you.
                      Many religions have their moments. To simplify and base ones characterization of other religions on the actions of a few is just wrong.
                      Government Moto:
                      "Why fix it? Blame someone else for breaking it."

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                      • domwilson
                        Moderator
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 4408

                        #26
                        Well, it looks like Obama has changed his focus...

                        Government Moto:
                        "Why fix it? Blame someone else for breaking it."

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                        • domwilson
                          Moderator
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 4408

                          #27
                          It's gotten pretty quiet here on politics since Obama's state of the union speech. Why is that? Is he giving people what they want?
                          Government Moto:
                          "Why fix it? Blame someone else for breaking it."

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                          • RCprince
                            Fast Electric Addict!
                            • Jul 2007
                            • 1637

                            #28
                            Fox keeps cutting him off in addition to that Republican Q&A failure. I have never heard so many misstatement and conjectures moonlighting as questions. How could one man show up so many stupid headless chickens in one room, kinda like Jordan vs the La Clippers...lol.
                            Samuel Johnson - “An injustice anywhere is an injustice everywhere.” William Cooper "listen to everything, read everything, and believe nothing unless you can prove it in your own research!"

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                            • domwilson
                              Moderator
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 4408

                              #29
                              The media is saying that the Reps are rejecting their own ideas because he's come on board to support them. If this is true, it could cause a political backlash.
                              Government Moto:
                              "Why fix it? Blame someone else for breaking it."

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                              • Steven Vaccaro
                                Administrator
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 8720

                                #30
                                I'm not sure there is anything new to take about. He said the same old things.
                                Steven Vaccaro

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