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  • carsonschaos
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    • May 2007
    • 30

    #16
    In light of the latest info, I'm going to stick with my first thought that religion had a lot to do with it. And I wonder when we will wake up.

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    • Bill-SOCAL
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      • Nov 2007
      • 1404

      #17
      Tell you what, if it can be shown that his motivation was not mental illness but instead his religious views I will rethink my position.

      However, before calling him a terrorist I would want to know why this guy does not meet your definition of a terrorist:

      Don't get me started

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      • Bill-SOCAL
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        • Nov 2007
        • 1404

        #18
        On this topic, seems new information shows that the original story was not 100% correct:

        http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/13/us/13hood.html?
        Don't get me started

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        • Darin Jordan
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          • Apr 2007
          • 8335

          #19
          Originally posted by Bill-SOCAL
          On this topic, seems new information shows that the original story was not 100% correct:

          http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/13/us/13hood.html?
          Oh well... one of them is the "hero"... They both are, as far as I'm concerned, if they both even attempted to engage the guy under these circumstances... Sounds like if she hadn't taken the shots, the gunman wouldn't have been reloading, etc., etc.... It is what it is... They got the guy, that's what is important.
          Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
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          • RCprince
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            • Jul 2007
            • 1637

            #20
            Originally posted by Bill-SOCAL
            On this topic, seems new information shows that the original story was not 100% correct:

            http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/13/us/13hood.html?
            I'm waiting for all the fanfare the disappear...then and only then will we really know what happened.
            Last edited by RCprince; 11-12-2009, 07:41 PM. Reason: grammar
            Samuel Johnson - “An injustice anywhere is an injustice everywhere.” William Cooper "listen to everything, read everything, and believe nothing unless you can prove it in your own research!"

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            • Bill-SOCAL
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              • Nov 2007
              • 1404

              #21
              My point was more to the fact that in their haste to say something, anything, the press and maybe the military, anointed the woman cop as a hero while failing to even mention the other cop.

              But anyone who runs TOWARDS a guy shooting like a madman is a hero in my book
              Don't get me started

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              • Flying Scotsman
                Fast Electric Adict!
                • Jun 2007
                • 5190

                #22
                We are all too quick to listen to media interpretations of a fast moving story. The old fashioned way of let us look at all the facts and confirm the stories was the best way, we are too quick to jump to conclusions before the facts are revealed. That is the problem with news gathering today. The sensational networks and websites are too fast with their analogy of what actually transpired

                Douggie
                Last edited by Flying Scotsman; 11-12-2009, 07:55 PM.

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                • AndyKunz
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                  • Sep 2008
                  • 1437

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Bill-SOCAL
                  My point was more to the fact that in their haste to say something, anything, the press and maybe the military, anointed the woman cop as a hero while failing to even mention the other cop.
                  Yeah, those sexist racist pigs! :rolleyes:

                  But anyone who runs TOWARDS a guy shooting like a madman is a hero in my book
                  Actually that's a very effective way to stop a shooter, especially one who is not especially experienced with the tactic. Often the aggressor will turn and run - then you got 'em.

                  Works with some wild animals also. Others will consider it a provocation and attack when they normally would not have.

                  Andy
                  Spektrum Development Team

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                  • Bill-SOCAL
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                    • Nov 2007
                    • 1404

                    #24
                    Originally posted by AndyKunz
                    Actually that's a very effective way to stop a shooter, especially one who is not especially experienced with the tactic. Often the aggressor will turn and run - then you got 'em.

                    Andy
                    I have no direct experience in such situations and will defer to you this since it appears you do.

                    Personally I would run away from anyone actively firing a weapon and think it is counter to our natural instincts for self preservation to run towards danger. Hence my feeling that anyone who does so in the line of duty and defense of others is truly exceptional.
                    Last edited by Bill-SOCAL; 11-13-2009, 04:44 PM.
                    Don't get me started

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                    • RCprince
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                      • Jul 2007
                      • 1637

                      #25
                      lol
                      Samuel Johnson - “An injustice anywhere is an injustice everywhere.” William Cooper "listen to everything, read everything, and believe nothing unless you can prove it in your own research!"

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                      • Steven Vaccaro
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                        • Apr 2007
                        • 8720

                        #26
                        Please keep it civil!
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                        • NitroVal
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                          • Jun 2009
                          • 423

                          #27
                          I think if a department psychologist found out you ran towards a suspect who was actively firing a weapon at you, they would place you on psych leave and possibly 24 hour suicide watch...
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                          • AndyKunz
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                            • Sep 2008
                            • 1437

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Bill-SOCAL
                            ... and think it is counter to our natural instincts for self preservation to run towards danger.
                            That's probably why it works. It counters what the aggressor was expecting, throwing him off kilter while he tries to figure it out. That second or two might be all that's necessary. "Fight or Flight" is pretty hard to overcome w/o training.

                            Hence my feeling that anyone who does so in the line of duty and defense of others is truly exceptional.
                            I agree with you there, Bill.

                            Andy
                            Spektrum Development Team

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