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  • Darin Jordan
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Apr 2007
    • 8335

    #31
    Originally posted by ghostofpf1
    You really think Palin is suited for executive leadership...
    Actually... yes I do... She has more executive experience that the other three candidates combined... Clinton didn't have experience beyond being a Governer... Either did Reagan... or Bush... or any number of other presidents...

    It's rediculous to try to make that argument when the person you are arguing in favour of has absolutely NO exective, business, foreign, or any other kind of experience that would qualify him for the position. NONE! Hillary had more credentials for the job than O does...
    Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
    "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."

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    • ghostofpf1
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2008
      • 392

      #32
      I always find it amusing that Bill Clinton is nearly always brought up in some form or another in these types of discussions. He must have been a helluva president to stick in your craws this long
      Darin:Those other guys had a lot more going for them than a soccer mom from Wasilla Alaska just based on her demeanor and what little substance she's actually shown us.I for one don't see her standing behind the desk at the Oval Office making the hard decisions.Maybe a good puppet like we already have but she doesn't come off to me as a independant thinker which is what the President should really be IMHO.

      Ghost

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      • Darin Jordan
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Apr 2007
        • 8335

        #33
        Originally posted by ghostofpf1
        Maybe a good puppet like we already have but she doesn't come off to me as a independant thinker which is what the President should really be IMHO.
        Not as good a "puppet" as your guy I imagine... You think these are all HIS ideas?? I'll give you this... he's the perfect Democratic mouthpiece... Apparently that's important to some...

        On records and actions... I'll stick with my team... They don't have to be polished to be accomplished... or to have "substance"... Actions speak louder than words, after all... and they actually have actions to reflect on...

        November 4th can't get here soon enough. I'm dying to see what this big "test" of the most inexperienced candidate in presidential election history is going to be, if he gets elected.....
        Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
        "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."

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        • Steven Vaccaro
          Administrator
          • Apr 2007
          • 8720

          #34
          I fear the "test", than will fear even more the response. It will probably look something like this

          Steven Vaccaro

          Where Racing on a Budget is a Reality!

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          • Bill-SOCAL
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Nov 2007
            • 1404

            #35
            Good point Steven. The GOP really are the tough guys. Let's review. 7 years later Osama bin Laden still stalks the Earth, Taliban on the come back trail in Afghanistan, 4,100+ American dead in Iraq (600,000+ dead non-combatant Iraqi's) with Al Qaeda with a new found strong hold and recruiting tool.

            I feel so much safer.

            Bottom line. I had friends who died in 9/11, my brother was in the building across the street and could have been killed and GW BS'd us about how he was "Gonna Git him, Dead or Alive". And yet bin Laden is still alive a free to work his terror against us. So the tough guy approach appears not to have been too successful in my view of things.

            BTW - I have a brother in Iraq now, so everyone can spare me the "support the troops" BS. You can support the troops and not the mission and still be a patriot. And as a veteran I am always amused when those who never served question that.
            Don't get me started

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            • Steven Vaccaro
              Administrator
              • Apr 2007
              • 8720

              #36
              Sorry to hear about your friends Bill. I had one also.

              IMO 8 years of Clinton taking blind pot shots in the middle east lead to a weaker America. Sure the economy was tremendous during Clinton terms . Companies that should have had stocks in the $20 where selling at 5-10 times that . How long did we think that was going to last? BUT in the end 7 years after 911 there still has not been another attack on American soil. I do feel safe knowing that.

              I agree that Palin said some stupid things. But come on. Imagine if Bidin was the VP of a Major company and said "well this company is going to face a major crisis in 4 months and you the stockholder will not like how our company is going to handle the situation!". He would be looking for a new job the next day.
              Steven Vaccaro

              Where Racing on a Budget is a Reality!

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              • Darin Jordan
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Apr 2007
                • 8335

                #37
                Originally posted by Steven Vaccaro
                I agree that Palin said some stupid things. But come on. Imagine if Bidin was the VP of a Major company and said "well this company is going to face a major crisis in 4 months and you the stockholder will not like how our company is going to handle the situation!". He would be looking for a new job the next day.
                To add to that... All we every HEAR about are the "stupid" things she's said... the coverage is so biased that we only hear the bad from the McCain campaign, and things like Bidon's rant just get sluffed off and not pursued or even investigated for factual content... Sluffed off along with other things like radical associations, voting records, etc...

                If McCain manages to win in this media environment, he truely will be an Hero...

                If fact.... him being so close, despite having less than 90-million to spend on his ENTIRE CAMPAIGN, compared to 150-million that O received just last month alone says alot about what it takes to get the Liberal agenda into power...

                If they get elected... Here is another little tidbit that we all have to look forward to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairness_doctrine Except that Obama had dodged that one too... instead supporting "Network Neutrality" legislation... so basically just renaming it...

                His recent comments about Foxnews clearly show that silencing these critics is on him mind...
                Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
                "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."

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                • Bill-SOCAL
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 1404

                  #38
                  OK, you win. It's Clinton's fault. What isn't??
                  Don't get me started

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                  • Darin Jordan
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 8335

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Bill-SOCAL
                    OK, you win. It's Clinton's fault. What isn't??
                    I haven't researched all the string of events leading up to 9/11 at this point, but from a financial standpoint, I'm actually blaming the current crisis on Lyndon Johnson (HUD), then Carter (Community Reinvestment Act), and then Clinton (Bigger Community Reinvestment Act), and then Barney Frank, Mr. Dodd, Pelosi, Franklin Raines, Richard Syron, the Democratic led banking finance committee, all those Democrats who fought against all attempts to reign in Fannie and Freddie, etc... who all decided to play "affirmative action" with our mortgage system, at the taxpayers risk and expense... so there is plenty of blame to go around...
                    Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
                    "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."

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                    • Steven Vaccaro
                      Administrator
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 8720

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Bill-SOCAL
                      OK, you win. It's Clinton's fault. What isn't??

                      I don't blame everything on Clinton. When was the last time you heard a Dem say Clinton, Carter or for that matter any Dem caused a problem. It seems the blame only goes in one direction all the time. I just wanted to make sure everyone knows there is enough abuse and corruption to spread the blame around to both parties.

                      I truly believe that no matter who I pick for president, it will not be good for anyone in the end. Only if I vote for my guy it may just be a bit slower.


                      I'm growing quite tired of voting for the lesser evil. So I will be writing in my president this time around. Joe the plumber is that man. You heard it here first! Joe Wurzelbacher for President.
                      And that is the truth!
                      Steven Vaccaro

                      Where Racing on a Budget is a Reality!

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                      • Spot Me 2
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 769

                        #41
                        Hey, good news. The latest AP poll has the race about even.

                        MMGMMarine
                        RobertsonRacing

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                        • AndyKunz
                          Fast Electric Addict!
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 1437

                          #42
                          Darin,

                          When I was much younger, the polls had Reagan trailing dreadfully in the polls.

                          He won by a landslide, no matter what measure you use.

                          There's only 1 poll that really counts, and it's less than 2 weeks away. Until then, you can discount anything the AP or other media says.

                          BTW, did you notice it was AP-GfK that did the poll? GfK is a German group - I used to work for a company that developed their TV-watching stuff (not too different from early Nielsen). I guess ACORN is now trying to sign up European voters for 11/4...

                          Andy
                          Spektrum Development Team

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                          • Darin Jordan
                            Fast Electric Addict!
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 8335

                            #43
                            Originally posted by AndyKunz
                            I guess ACORN is now trying to sign up European voters for 11/4...

                            Andy
                            Andy... we've been instructed.... errrr... I mean "informed" by the media that we can ignore those associations that O has... They aren't important and just take away "from the issues"...

                            Other than those that he'll admit to... he doesn't have any ties to Acorn... and never has... ummm... well... now might have had some.... whoops... worked for them for awhile....... darn.... Nope.... doesn't have any ties there at all...

                            Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
                            "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."

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                            • ghostofpf1
                              Senior Member
                              • Jun 2008
                              • 392

                              #44
                              Seems Obama isn't the only one who has rubbed shoulders with that commie organization....

                              ACORN Responds to Senator McCain’s Desperate Attack
                              October 15, 2008


                              On Wednesday, Oct. 15, ACORN National President Maude Hurd issued the following statement in response to Senator John McCain’s attack:

                              "We appreciate Senator McCain's effort to stir up the Republican base by attacking a community organization working to increase public participation in our democratic process. However, these attacks reflect an increasingly panicked candidate. Unfortunately, the Senator McCain we saw tonight is very different than the Senator McCain who stood shoulder to shoulder with ACORN at a February 20, 2006 immigration reform event.

                              It is clear for us to see that John McCain was for ACORN before he was against ACORN; he was for reform before he was against reform; and he was a maverick before he became erratic. What is really going on here is that Senator McCain and his allies are part of a coordinated effort to engage in what appears to be an unprecedented effort to suppress voter turnout. Repeating a lie doesn't make it true, and the McCain campaign has resorted to the worst type of deceptions in regards to ACORN."

                              The Facts:


                              ACORN has helped 1.3 million citizens from all parties and all walks of life apply for voter registration.
                              In most states, ACORN is required by law to turn in every voter registration card - even in cases where the cards are not valid.
                              It is ACORN that has reported almost all of the issues regarding voter registration cards to elections officials, and flagged the suspicious cards.
                              Invalid voter registration cards do NOT constitute voter fraud. Even RNC General Counsel Sean Cairncross has recently acknowledged he is not aware of a single improper vote cast as a result of bad cards submitted in the course of an organized voter registration effort.
                              ACORN hired 13,000 field workers to register people to vote. In any endeavor of this size, some people will engage in inappropriate conduct. ACORN has a zero tolerance policy and terminated any field workers caught engaging in questionable activity. At the end of the day, as ACORN is paying these people to register voters, it is ACORN that is defrauded.


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                              Ghost

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                              • Steven Vaccaro
                                Administrator
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 8720

                                #45
                                Originally posted by ghostofpf1
                                The Facts:


                                ACORN has helped 1.3 million citizens from all parties and all walks of life apply for voter registration.
                                In most states, ACORN is required by law to turn in every voter registration card - even in cases where the cards are not valid.
                                It is ACORN that has reported almost all of the issues regarding voter registration cards to elections officials, and flagged the suspicious cards.
                                Invalid voter registration cards do NOT constitute voter fraud. Even RNC General Counsel Sean Cairncross has recently acknowledged he is not aware of a single improper vote cast as a result of bad cards submitted in the course of an organized voter registration effort.
                                ACORN hired 13,000 field workers to register people to vote. In any endeavor of this size, some people will engage in inappropriate conduct. ACORN has a zero tolerance policy and terminated any field workers caught engaging in questionable activity. At the end of the day, as ACORN is paying these people to register voters, it is ACORN that is defrauded.


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                                Ghost
                                Now that I know that, I feel a hell of a lot better.
                                Another fact. Acorn is "supposed" to be an unbiased group. That's why they get OUR tax dollars to run THEIR organization.

                                How do you explain Acorns leaders trying to rally the troops for Obama in Acorn speeches?

                                Steven Vaccaro

                                Where Racing on a Budget is a Reality!

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