nissan GTR..... sucks?

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  • Steven Vaccaro
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    • Apr 2007
    • 8720

    #16
    It is very easy for an experienced drag racer to explain the time differences between the two cars - the driver in the right lane is better, had less wheel spin and hooked up harder, didn't miss a shift, etc. The virtually identical trap speeds are an indication of horsepower; ET is more about torque, traction and driver skill. The identical trap speeds tells the story - same hp in both cars.
    I used to race the 1/4 with some friends on the open night at the local drag strip. Jays correct. MPH at the trap is an indication that each car has "about" the same HP. There is a formula used to figure out hp by using trap mph.
    Steven Vaccaro

    Where Racing on a Budget is a Reality!

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    • duncanjerry
      Member
      • Dec 2007
      • 73

      #17
      I was on a waiting list for a gtr for over a year. Once they came in the dealer stuck a $20,000 premium on top of the $74,000. I'll give it a few years.

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      • Steven Vaccaro
        Administrator
        • Apr 2007
        • 8720

        #18
        Originally posted by duncanjerry
        I was on a waiting list for a gtr for over a year. Once they came in the dealer stuck a $20,000 premium on top of the $74,000. I'll give it a few years.

        LOL, tell them to keep it! And get a real car. Get the 505hp 2009 Corvette. $77k and with the way GM and the economy is headed you can probably get $5-$15k off that car.
        Steven Vaccaro

        Where Racing on a Budget is a Reality!

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        • teach
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2008
          • 509

          #19
          Originally posted by duncanjerry
          I was on a waiting list for a gtr for over a year. Once they came in the dealer stuck a $20,000 premium on top of the $74,000. I'll give it a few years.
          Duncan sorry to say that is common with the GTRs. We sold our first one at list, second one 5k over. The buyer of the first turned around and sold his within a week at 15k over his price. The second one sits in my stall. Been there over 3 weeks now, even after the buyer paid for it . You are better to wait anyways. I really don't see the mark up ever going away anytime soon. We have both of our sold for next year at 7k over. Both out of state. To boot we have a rumored SpecV GTR coming out. I was told (again rumors, but from a very good source) they have a 900 horse being tested in Japan. Of course that will NEVER be produced but the fact that it's possible says a little.

          Mr. Vaccaro with all due respect the Corvettes have been a joke of thier former glory for to many years. I would wait to see what the folks at motor trend or the other hot rodders oput there say.

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          • Steven Vaccaro
            Administrator
            • Apr 2007
            • 8720

            #20
            Originally posted by teach
            Mr. Vaccaro with all due respect the Corvettes have been a joke of thier former glory for to many years. I would wait to see what the folks at motor trend or the other hot rodders oput there say.
            I have to disagree there.

            In the streets around here(Massachusetts) there is no slalom racing going on. But plenty of 0-60 or 1/4 mile stuff(not that I condone either!!!). According to Motor Trend the GTR ran 0-60 in 3.7 sec, the Corvette ran the same. Quarter mile they are about equal as well in time. The vette is about 1/10 faster but 6mph faster through the traps. Which probably means the vette had a rough take off or tire spin during the gear change.

            I would keep the $20k that the Nissan dealer wants over sticker and have a big party

            Not to mention no rice burner would ever be left to sleep in my stable! I have three cars in my driveway. All proudy adorn an American badge.
            Steven Vaccaro

            Where Racing on a Budget is a Reality!

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            • Norcal2500HD

              #21
              Originally posted by Steven Vaccaro
              Get the 505hp 2009 Corvette. $77k and with the way GM and the economy is headed you can probably get $5-$15k off that car.
              2009 ZR-1 for the win!!!


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              • Steven Vaccaro
                Administrator
                • Apr 2007
                • 8720

                #22
                What a car. But its another "limited" production run that the Dealers are holding people up for. My Chevy dealer near me is the Number 1 selling vette dealer in Massachusetts's. He was not alloted one of those.
                Steven Vaccaro

                Where Racing on a Budget is a Reality!

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                • Steven Vaccaro
                  Administrator
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 8720

                  #23
                  Norcal 2500hd is that your car? Well even if it isnt and you get to drive in it, I still bow down to you. As a Chevy fan to the death you have me drooling on my keyboard .
                  Steven Vaccaro

                  Where Racing on a Budget is a Reality!

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                  • Norcal2500HD

                    #24
                    No that was actually the test car Gm gave to the tv show Top Gear. They just filmed a tv show here on the west coast. The cars they tested were the 09 zr1, the 09 cadillac cts-v and a 09 challenger.

                    the cars were shipped to san francisco, flogged around the city, driven to reno for some safety equipment and then driven to boneville.

                    So this is what I "hear" about the cars

                    The vette is a powerhouse, no doubt. Pulls from 100 to 160 like a freight train. sounds incredible, stops excellent. Will haze the tires from 1st to 4th w/o any hesitation....only problem is keeping the car in line and not having the rear end wander all over the place.

                    the challenger...well it was boring.

                    CTS-V.....550hp supercharged 4dr family car......talk about a wolf in sheeps clothing. handles great, pulls hard, looks great.....think thats going to be added to the fleet next.


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                    • Steven Vaccaro
                      Administrator
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 8720

                      #25
                      I would love to see the 4 door as a convertible!
                      Steven Vaccaro

                      Where Racing on a Budget is a Reality!

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                      • teach
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2008
                        • 509

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Steven Vaccaro
                        I have to disagree there.

                        In the streets around here(Massachusetts) there is no slalom racing going on. But plenty of 0-60 or 1/4 mile stuff(not that I condone either!!!). According to Motor Trend the GTR ran 0-60 in 3.7 sec, the Corvette ran the same. Quarter mile they are about equal as well in time. The vette is about 1/10 faster but 6mph faster through the traps. Which probably means the vette had a rough take off or tire spin during the gear change.

                        I would keep the $20k that the Nissan dealer wants over sticker and have a big party

                        Not to mention no rice burner would ever be left to sleep in my stable! I have three cars in my driveway. All proudy adorn an American badge.
                        For the life of me I can not find a review of the Vette. All I seem to find are 2008. I'm finding speculations of a $100,00 ZR-1. Looks promising though. I too was a huge Chevy fan. Every drag car I owned was chevy powered.

                        As to the American badges, where were they actually made?

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                        • Steven Vaccaro
                          Administrator
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 8720

                          #27
                          Originally posted by teach
                          As to the American badges, where were they actually made?

                          HAHA you got me there!
                          Steven Vaccaro

                          Where Racing on a Budget is a Reality!

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                          • teach
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2008
                            • 509

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Steven Vaccaro
                            HAHA you got me there!
                            I'm glad that came out right. I didn't want to sound like an elitist jerk.

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                            • ace028
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2007
                              • 952

                              #29
                              First of all Nissan GTR and sucks sould not be used in the same sentence. (title to thread)

                              I use to work at a nissan dealer, it was a great car line to work for, dispite my dealer being cheap, well I went to factory school, and heard about the GTR, I was excited, I knew how awsome the skyline is, and a skyline for america would be awsome, well after being called up from a mercedes dealer, wanting me to go work there, I couldn't resist, the pay is better and benifits are better, needless to say my fellow workers at nissan were also excited about the GTR, so after I left to go work for mercedes, I found out from one of my friends at nissan that they didn't want to sell it there because they didn't want to invest in tools, and lift. How dumb is that, where I lived before in Redding, Ca there is a lot of rich people, some own half the city. This car would surely have been sold before it got to the dealer, if I was rich enough I would buy it.

                              Now being a proud american, I would love to support our economy and buy american, but I don't think that our cars are even made here in america, or at least most of the parts aren't. From looking at past corvette models, I dont think that they are even close to japaneese quality. Every gm car I have been in, felt so cheap. When I get in my 88 honda prelude with 250k on it, I can still feel the quality, though things getting old on it. Now I would but a chevy truck, but I don't think that the quality is up to par with toyota. (nissan titan don't count engine-trans=good, rest = cheap) Why are the japanesse cars so much better in quality? Hope I don't offend anyone, its just my opinion, from what I noticed working on cars.

                              teach, when I was at nissan school, they were saying that the training for the GTR that you would have to go to japan for 6 weeks. That is what a instructor told me, it sounded far fetched to me, what dealer is going to pay for that? I work on 100k plus mercedes and we don't get to go to germany for 6 weeks. If you did, can I come work with you so I can go to japan, and drive the GTR!
                              Twin power =

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                              • teach
                                Senior Member
                                • Jun 2008
                                • 509

                                #30
                                Originally posted by ace028
                                teach, when I was at nissan school, they were saying that the training for the GTR that you would have to go to japan for 6 weeks. That is what a instructor told me, it sounded far fetched to me, what dealer is going to pay for that? I work on 100k plus mercedes and we don't get to go to germany for 6 weeks. If you did, can I come work with you so I can go to japan, and drive the GTR!
                                Nah the owners threw a giant fit so we didn't get to go. Did you go to the school in Pleasanton? The total cost to sell the GT-R was a few hundred bucks under $57k for us.

                                As to driving it, ya it's a thrill. I never try to look at customer cars as toys but......cmon, I couldn't help but let loose once. I live in Colorado so they didn't run as well as the others I drove but WOW. We have a 20 mile highway that is always empty with decent pavement. The take off wasn't as brutal as my old drag cars but after the initial 10-15 feet hold the (insert curse word) on. It just keeps pulling.

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