Swap Shop Suggestion

[tlandauer]

In light of so many people who are either uninformed or couldn't be bothered to follow the rules, I wonder if it is at all possible to have a check box in the section like when one is closing a financial transaction. One must read and agree to the terms ( rules) before allowed such endeavors.
It will be a pain for people who have sold and followed the rules, but it seems REPEATED admonishments by Moderators goes ignored by these people.
I truly don't get it, as I take a tremendous pride in observing the rules and so do 99% of all the other members. Why let the 1% of them ruin our day?
Another way is to have the Forum remember the names of members who have sold items without violations and exempt these people from having to do the check box. First time sellers must go through this process.

I don't know, may be I am being silly again, but it bothers me that the rules are being ignored and Moderators have to spend their time going after these people.

[Luck as a Constant]

Swap Shop Suggestion

It's really sad that I see guys that have been around and know the rules blatantly ignoring them.
Good thing I don't have mod status otherwise I would just ban them before they could make a sale thru pm.
Unfortunately, the more these threads show up, the more the mods want to just be done with swap shop all together I'm sure


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[Make-a-Wake]

I cant stand the scenario where the OP says "all forum rules apply, no pm's" then the VERY FIRST reply post is 'PM sent'!!!! WTH???????????? Just happened again!

What in the world can be so secretive about a freakin prop or hull for sale that they cant just type "how long is it", "are there any scratches" etc etc............................ i imagine cuz its some sneaky BS.

We're not selling top secret military items here...................for Pete's sake!

[Spartanator]

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A lot of times PM sent means that they are exchanging PayPal info. I do not want my email in the open so the bots can get it. Not going to lie, I have bought something via a PM. It didn't come in the condition that was advertised.... Poor FASTech.... I won't be doing doing that again, lesson learned....

I don't like to post tracking numbers either, if it is a UPS tracking number the delivery address could be changed. I have some of MY stuff re-routed to my work.

Unfortunately rules will always get broken. I think 2016 will be the end of the Swap Shop..... Hope not...

Possibly a 24 hour rule on offers????

[Make-a-Wake]

Here's rule #5

5. The first reply post that shows intent to buy pending more information in the thread (NOT via PM) is first in line to buy the item.

'PM sent' is not "intent to buy" in the thread............ and 'NOT via PM' is .......well..........not via PM

[Spartanator]

I know that but sometimes the seller doesn't like that first offer, then gets a second offer, maybe even a third-All of which were higher than the original. Is the seller "allowed" to say no to the lower offering guys and sell it to the higher buyer? I have read the rules but I just find grey areas in certain spots, or maybe I am just over thinking it.... lol

[Make-a-Wake]

My take on that is if someone offers 60 on a 100 price, then the seller should at least counter back to the first poster...........or state that the price is firm. If someone else offers an acceptable price before the first guy replies, I would sell it.................the first guy shouldn't have been lowballing which 90% of folks do here. If the item is priced fairly why not just pay a fellow boater that price, folks on here acting like saving(pinching the seller) 10 bucks is gonna stop them from having to dig out of a dumpster for dinner

[Spartanator]

I lowball every now and 5 minutes.... There is lots of good deals here but we still pop lowballs out.

[Make-a-Wake]

What if a guy priced a NIB leopard 4074 at 40 bucks..........................you gonna offer him 30 or quickly buy it before someone else does?

[Diegoboy]

I love this conversation. Let's keep it going...

[Spartanator]

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What if a guy priced a NIB leopard 4074 at 40 bucks..........................you gonna offer him 30 or quickly buy it before someone else does?

I might.... Just depends who it is..... If it was Someone who I have delt with before then probably pay that asking. This isn't a retail shop so I do not want to pay retail prices.
It might erupt into a bidding war...
I doubt you want to pay everyone's asking price though.

I love this conversation. Let's keep it going...

It might get interesting....

[kfxguy]

I think it should be like this:

Part for sale, 60 bucks or best offer.


Guy a says he'll give 40 for it.

Seller hasn't responded just yet....

Guy b comes along and says I'll pay what your asking....

First off the seller said Obo...the asking price is the best offer and the offerer needs to understand he's taking a chance. Now had the seller agreed to the 40 bucks, well it's sold to him even if a guy comes behind and offers full price (once the offer is accepted the item should be considered sold no matter what at that point).

[Doby]

A seller can sell to whoever he/she wants to.

[Spartanator]

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A seller can sell to whoever he/she wants to.

At the end of the day yes, but some get irritated when 3 people offer differently.... The first offer is a lowball, 2nd offer is a mid ball, 3rd is asking price and the seller picks the last offer which is highest. It's not really confusing but I keep overthinking it.

If it has a price I will make an offer, even if it's $5 below asking. I've paid over asking before.... I've been told to pick my price before, I don't say: OK, $10 for a $40 item...

Sorry Tim, mind of de-railing your thread...

[T.S.Davis]

The PM deals do piss me off. No pictures is super annoying too. Some of the rules are silly IMO

You can't offer additional information about something being sold unless you are the seller. If you see a sale item that you are familiar with you should be able to vouch for it's quality. The rule mongers immediately send messages to the mods about bumping a buddies sale item. I wouldn't "bump" a sale item for my mother. I would say "I've seen it, it's a nice build, I've had my butt kicked by it". If I saw an opportunity for a fellow boater to pick up something nice I would like to help do that. But noooooooooooo. Rule violation! Rule violation! Delete! Delete!

Incidentally, I don't blame the mods for that. They're only trying to keep their in box from exploding. I might even get a text from one saying "Cut it out tool! I got stuff to do today."

If there was a radio button saying you read the rules would guys read them? It will be like loading software. Yes yes yes continue install yes ugh ugh ugh yes just do it already. There's a box on the NAMBA form where you verify that you've read the rule book. I still know guys with multiple years of race experience that haven't read it.