Proboat Blackjack 29" V3 - new hull, 2000kv motor, 120A ESC & EC5 plugs.

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  • fusion_m8
    Member
    • Jan 2013
    • 53

    #1

    Proboat Blackjack 29" V3 - new hull, 2000kv motor, 120A ESC & EC5 plugs.

    Has anyone gotten their hands on one yet??? I would love to know what is different about the hull design compared to previous model. Apparently the hull doesn't porpoise as much as before, from what I observed in the HorizonHobby YouTube video below.

    In ProBoat's website picture gallery there is a sneak peek of the internal layout of the new hull design, looks like they have put in some proper battery holders on top of trays and improved the space by lowering the trays closer to the bottom of the hull so as to fit larger/taller battery packs. The battery holders can slide fore and aft on the trays to adjust the COG. However the amount of COG adjustment for the battery packs does look limited compared to before.

    The new 120A ESC looks beefier with better water cooling than the previous 80A version. Though the new 120A ESC does look a little plain with no blue anodized heatsink.

    The motor mount looks much sturdier.

    The radio antenna has changed location and is shorter and stubbier.

    I am excited to find out more about the ride pads on the new hull. Many racers believe that the ride pads on the previous hull must be blueprinted and sharpened to eliminate porpoising. I wonder if PB has done some kind of improvement to the ride pads for them to handle the extra speed of the 2000kv motor on 6s? The previous hull was already maxed out with the 1800kv/6S setup. Looking at the picture supplied on ProBoat's website, the bottom of the hull design looks slightly different. The ride pads appear flatter than before and the flexshaft tube appears to be housed inside and aerodynamic mini keel for improved airflow, perhaps that helps reduce porpoising?

    Transmitter is the same Spektrum DX2E, however the receiver has been upgraded(?) from a MR200 to a SR410.

    I wonder if the flexshaft has been beefed up as well? Many BJ29 owners did blowup the stock flexshaft with the 1800kv/6S setup.

    According to the ProBoat website's product description, the propeller size is now 63mm(WT...??!!)x1.6p. That's gotta be a typo!!! The factory metal prop used to be a 40mmx1.6p=63mm of pitch.







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    Last edited by fusion_m8; 11-24-2014, 12:00 PM.
  • fusion_m8
    Member
    • Jan 2013
    • 53

    #2
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    • Pedro Ramos
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2014
      • 144

      #3
      i just got mine today and no tupperware cover for the electronics, super short battery connectors from the esc. no programing card or info on how to program the esc.

      i will water test it tomorrow.

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      • fusion_m8
        Member
        • Jan 2013
        • 53

        #4
        Excellent! Please post some pictures and videos on it on 4s and/or 6s.

        I tried to get hold of one from ProBoat's website(the only place with shipping to Australia atm) and the shipping was $238!!! Think I have to wait until the ebay sellers get hold of their stock, the shipping from ebay sellers is a lot more reasonable at around $80.

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        • Pedro Ramos
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2014
          • 144

          #5
          the boat is a beast, super stable but still no info on how to at least disable reverse, other than that on 6s is pretty fast and reasonable stable. on 4s is more tamed for the novice or young driver.

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          • fusion_m8
            Member
            • Jan 2013
            • 53

            #6
            I wonder why they put reverse mode ESC on what is obviously an intermediate-advance level RTR boat. Its like putting cupholders in a Nascar!

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            • tlandauer
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Apr 2011
              • 5666

              #7
              Originally posted by fusion_m8
              I wonder why they put reverse mode ESC on what is obviously an intermediate-advance level RTR boat. Its like putting cupholders in a Nascar!
              That may be true, but it is still aimed at as many customers as possible, so it is a marketing decision. You will be surprised at how many walk-in customers ask if there is a reverse feature. I was at a hobby shop and that was the conversation I over heard.
              Too many boats, not enough time...

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              • Pedro Ramos
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2014
                • 144

                #8
                had this boat over a month now and the boat is a rocket for a rtr. nothing bad to report super stable on 4s for the kids and scary fast on 6s for the father! lol
                great finish fiberglass hull, great hardware, only thing i did is dual water pick up, 5/32 tubing and aero marine large water outlets, motor and esc cold to the touch even on 6s!

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                • RCBoaterGuy
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2014
                  • 213

                  #9
                  That ESC looks virtually identical to the new Seaking version 3's... http://www.hobbywing.com/product_show.asp?id=312 - The Dynamite has a different water block & 2 caps instead of 1, otherwise same thing.

                  Suggestion: try using a HobbyWing program box to program the ESC

                  You'll need a servo extension cord like this one... http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXEDAS&P=7 - to go from the ESC to the port on the back of the PB. White / orange wire goes to the horseshoe shaped symbol on the PB and to the "S" pin on the ESC.

                  The list of the programmable settings is in the HobbyWing manuals can be found here... http://www.falconsekido.com/pages/download

                  I set the LiPo cell count to the actual number of cells being used - auto detect can be sketchy sometimes.

                  Use the default LVC (Low Voltage Cutoff) value of 3.2V/C -- if your paranoid about over discharging your packs set it to 3.4V/C.

                  Set timing to: 7.5-degree's (or less) -- the default timing value of 15-degree's is wayyyy too high!!

                  Hope that helps, Good luck...


                  Originally posted by Pedro Ramos
                  i just got mine today and no tupperware cover for the electronics, super short battery connectors from the esc. no programing card or info on how to program the esc.

                  i will water test it tomorrow.
                  Last edited by RCBoaterGuy; 10-05-2015, 11:25 PM. Reason: Clarify My Suggestion be-cuz of PM Rcvd
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                  • RCBoaterGuy
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2014
                    • 213

                    #10
                    Checked PB's website - parts list, looks like the version 3 boats did away with the tupperware lid.

                    There's no mention of it in the manual either - maybe shoot Darin Jordan a PM for a clarification.

                    Dam, am I glad I got a MG29 while I could.


                    Originally posted by Pedro Ramos
                    i just got mine today and no tupperware cover for the electronics, super short battery connectors from the esc. no programing card or info on how to program the esc.

                    i will water test it tomorrow.
                    AQ MiniMono - CopterX 430XL 3550kv BL Outrunner + Seaking(V2) 35A on 2S VERY Fast
                    Pro Boat SW26v3 - 2860-2600kv + Seaking(V2) 90A on 3S, Build in Progress
                    Pro Boat Stealthwake 23 - Stock For Now - Brushless Down The Road

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                    • Mr_3_0_5
                      Member
                      • Jan 2015
                      • 32

                      #11
                      Nope there's no Tupperware lid

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                      • Buddyroe
                        Junior Member
                        • Dec 2014
                        • 28

                        #12

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                        • ray schrauwen
                          Fast Electric Addict!
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 9471

                          #13
                          Thanks for the pic. Finally I can see the inside.

                          I did mention once that the esc wa nearly a dead ringer for a HW120. The PB has a nicer cooling block it seems.
                          Nortavlag Bulc

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                          • Buddyroe
                            Junior Member
                            • Dec 2014
                            • 28

                            #14

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                            • BHChieftain
                              Fast Electric Addict
                              • Nov 2009
                              • 1969

                              #15
                              I really think the tupperware lid wasn't all that effective-- you need to tape the canopy down anyway, and that seals up things just fine.

                              Chief

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