What is scuffing and how do i do it?

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  • Rookie
    Junior Member
    • Jun 2010
    • 6

    #1

    What is scuffing and how do i do it?

    People have recommended scuffing the bottom of my boat to get more speed and i wanted to know what exactly that means.
  • osprey21
    Senior Member
    • May 2010
    • 693

    #2
    Scuffing the bottom causes air bubbles to form along the hull and actually makes it slicker than the smooth painted fiberglass. It breaks the friction/suction that develops between the water and the hull. It's only really necessary for the last half of the bottom of the hull that was below the water line in operation.

    Most use either a red Scotch-Brite pad or wet/dry sandpaper in a linear motion, bow to stern. I don't recall what grit# for the wet/dry paper though.

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    • Jeff Wohlt
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Jan 2008
      • 2716

      #3
      Just take some 400 or 600 paper with water and knock the shine off anywhere that runs in the water...mainly just the bottom. decrease water tension on the hull and runs faster.
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      • Rookie
        Junior Member
        • Jun 2010
        • 6

        #4
        ok thanks for the info

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        • Fluid
          Fast and Furious
          • Apr 2007
          • 8012

          #5
          Scuffing the bottom causes air bubbles to form along the hull and actually makes it slicker than the smooth painted fiberglass....
          Actually, air bubbles will not support a model boat and they do not reduce friction. When the shine is removed from a hull bottom - if done correctly - it allows the water to adhere firmly to the hull surface rather than just beading off. This reduces overall drag because there is less friction between water and water than there is between water and a solid 'dry' surface. This is why waxing a fast boat hull increases overall drag.

          As Jeff stated, use 400 grit wet-or-dry to remove the shine - you still want a smooth surface. Depending on the surface, block-sanding works well.



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          • Mel279
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2008
            • 857

            #6
            does it also reduce heat buildup?
            Stiletto tunnel,EPV135 (53") twin cat, CT06"Spirit of Qatar", FD 47" mono, Twin Mini Cat 23.5"

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            • bigwaveohs
              Senior Member
              • May 2009
              • 535

              #7
              Originally posted by Mel279
              does it also reduce heat buildup?
              Funny...
              I let the dogs out...

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              • Fluid
                Fast and Furious
                • Apr 2007
                • 8012

                #8
                Funny...
                Actually it can, although the amount of heat reduction would probably be minimal. Anything which frees up a hull will allow the motor to unload, reducing amp draw and lowering heat buildup.



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                • Visual Perfection
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2010
                  • 312

                  #9
                  I assume this will also be effective on an ABS hull? I am thinking about doing this on my SW 26 now...will it really make a difference?
                  The Speeders *PB SW 26 BL *PB Formula FASTech
                  The Cruiser *CBM Marlin Cruiser
                  The Pool Toys *Proboat Mini-C (x2)

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                  • tharmer
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 342

                    #10
                    After scuffing my sponson bottoms, they measured.000000000000000000000128 degrees cooler.
                    -t

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                    • D&D
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 185

                      #11
                      The heat thingy depends on the speed of the boat. Some boats have to worry about ice buildup. Me - I'm somewhere in between ice and heat...........................................

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                      • scubasteve95
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 239

                        #12
                        Originally posted by D&D
                        The heat thingy depends on the speed of the boat. Some boats have to worry about ice buildup. Me - I'm somewhere in between ice and heat...........................................

                        hay d & d
                        did you do it to the cat in the pic?
                        gonna try it on my ekos...any tips

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                        • D&D
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 185

                          #13
                          Scubasteve95, Yes we all started "roughing" up the bottom after the "Secret" came out concerning Dennis Connor's boat when it won back the Americas Cup" in 1987. The "Secret" was a 3M milar that they developed for (I believe) Boeing to reduce drag on some plane Boeing was working on. 3M offered it to Dennis Conner to try on one of his many hulls he was preparing for the Americas Cup. In testing Connor's discovered that the hull with the milar was running up to three-quarters knots faster under all conditions. During the Americas Cup Connors kept the bottom of his hull covered much like the Australians did when they won the previous cup from the US.

                          It's kind of like when the Australian Wombly(sp?) set the 300mph on water and in one of the filmed documentary work they showed him tourching off three inches from his rudder to increase speed. Heck, we had boats in the Capitol RCers that wouldn't even turn after we all saw that and no one had a method to really measure whether or not we had gained any speed. (My MM's rudder is 4 and three-quater inches long......)

                          Bottom line, is yes I roughed up the bottom of my MM and tried by best to "blueprint" the bottom to make sure it was reasonalbly flat.

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                          • JMSCARD
                            Fast Electric Addict!
                            • Mar 2010
                            • 3444

                            #14
                            Just a note... I also use painters taper...blue stuff to tape off the bottom of the hull to form a nice "edge".... that way it doesn't take the nice look away from the whole bottom of the hull and it looks like it was meant to be that way.... kinda like a real boat...lol.

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                            • Jeff Wohlt
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • Jan 2008
                              • 2716

                              #15
                              I thought about trying a coat of bed liner spray...it is rough but not sure how it would do.
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