Miss Geico Race Prep

[rayzerdesigns]

so probably something a little smaller for the 2030kv motor

[Brushless55]

so probably something a little smaller for the 2030kv motor

That motor could pull that prop just fine IMO
as long as your not running to wet

[mannytx1]

no bouncing ,No more, WA WA WA
Miss Geico (1).jpgMiss Geico (2).jpgMiss Geico (3).jpgNo more, wa wa wa
sdsds.jpgmiss geico.jpghi, miss geico, mystic and black jack is 27 ", 29" repeated mistake .
27" distance from the bow - sponson. (sling portion is not counted)
CG 27"/ 3 = 9" from the sponson CG 9"
strut closer to the sponsor is more stable catamaran

[rayzerdesigns]

hey wanted to say thanks for the help..my blackjack ran great first race..was not down on speed at all..ended up blowing over in second heat..running in pspec limited with ul 1 motor and m445 prop..temps after heat are 108 for motor, 99 speedo and batteries are at 110..thinking about turning timing up..but don't think its needed..gotta work on the blowing over in rough water

[ray schrauwen]

What cells are you running to be able to turn an M445 for 4 minutes with a 2030KV UL-1 motor???

[rayzerdesigns]

Not for 4 minutes..This is in sprint cat..6 laps..As for cells i use 2 cell car packs..i haven't tried to run 4 minutes yet..gps test coming today..

[rayzerdesigns]

Trying to post video..but no luck

[rayzerdesigns]

Robert, that's my boat you referenced in post #171. I have only run it a few times since the mod but seems like a winner so far. You are correct about support, I used a pc. of marine ply to hold the t-nuts in place and add strunth.

what bracket is that..did u just make it yourself??

[kfxguy]

no bouncing ,No more, WA WA WA
Miss Geico (1).jpgMiss Geico (2).jpgMiss Geico (3).jpgNo more, wa wa wa
sdsds.jpg
strut closer to the transom / sponsor is more stable catamaran

Did you make a cutout to move the strut and rudder closer in?

[rayzerdesigns]

testing going well..new prop and strut...

[mannytx1]

Did you make a cutout to move the strut and rudder closer in?

strut closer to the sponsor is more stable catamaran
hi, miss geico, mystic and black jack is 27 ", no 29" repeated mistake .
27" distance from the bow - sponson. (sling portion is not counted)
CG 27 "/ 3 = 9" from the sponson

I have +45 mph stable, 4S, aq1800kv, aq 60a and M445

I do not understand this at 6S, the hull is not perfect, needs lots of work

[Darin Jordan]

65+mph Mystic on 2S.... Stock Strut location. Basic Sponson blueprinting.



Every one of my Miss Geicos (2), Mystics (3), and BJ29's (1) runs with little to no "Wa-Wa", and all of them corner like they are on rails. Nothing special done to them outside of the general blueprinting of the sponsons, and basic setup and prop-work.

The boat is NOT perfect, but it's not anywhere near as dismal as you make it sound sometimes in your posts.

Based on the props I see people using, most likely straight up with a basic balance and sharpen, however, I can see why some have issues...

[rayzerdesigns]

wow Darrin..thats fast..im gonna go to one of the saw events in march..im sure I can learn a lot..my bj 29 is pretty dialed..no complaints from me..its been a big learning experience..but that's the fun part for me..u gonna be in az anytime

[mannytx1]

65+mph Mystic on 2S.... Stock Strut location. Basic Sponson blueprinting.



Every one of my Miss Geicos (2), Mystics (3), and BJ29's (1) runs with little to no "Wa-Wa", and all of them corner like they are on rails. Nothing special done to them outside of the general blueprinting of the sponsons, and basic setup and prop-work.

The boat is NOT perfect, but it's not anywhere near as dismal as you make it sound sometimes in your posts.

Based on the props I see people using, most likely straight up with a basic balance and sharpen, however, I can see why some have issues...

65+mph Mystic on 2S.... >>>...........LOL.........

[tlandauer]

65+mph Mystic on 2S.... >>>...........LOL.........

I was there , I saw How Darin adjusted his settings during those few days, I was totally blown away by the man's knowledge and meticulous attitude towards this hobby.
Come on down next time and witness how these great racers work.
Oh, by the way, it is called a SAW event. I do believe it broke a record as well! Namba has all the records and I am sure they will be happy to supply to anybody who doubts this.

[Darin Jordan]

65+mph Mystic on 2S.... >>>...........LOL.........

What is there to be confused about? The target was 70+. The previous N2 (NAMBA 2-CELL class, in case you weren't aware ) Offshore record was closer to 80. Yes... on 2S.

I can show you data graphs showing several test sessions with the very first Miss Geico release of 46-48mph CONSISTANTLY using the stock power system.

Speed isn't always about the equipment you've BOUGHT, but what you DO with that equipment. In the end, with everything else tuned to perfection, there is another 10%+ in prop work left to do...

[mannytx1]

How many pounds of lead should be put so that you do not fly?

[Darin Jordan]

How many pounds of lead should be put so that you do not fly?

Your being obtuse. ... did you actually watch that video? Did the boat look even close to blowing off? No extra weight required. The hull is too heavy as it is...

[rayzerdesigns]

that's awesome darin..im new to the boating thing..but learning more and more every day..would love to pick your brain on prop work..are you coming to wwx??

[mannytx1]

Your being obtuse. ... did you actually watch that video? Did the boat look even close to blowing off? No extra weight required. The hull is too heavy as it is...

Brushless Speed Prediction
http://www.radiocontrolinfo.com/RCca...Calculator.php

Miss Geico hull is too heavy ........LOL......
We all are obtuse
we have Miss Geico, Mystic, Blackjack in 4S, 5S, 6S and is very difficult get to 50+mph
But you Darin have a Mystic in 2S and get 70mph ....WOW.....
Default Darin's Pro Boat Mystic "29 Minus-Two"
Power system for N2 Offshore was a Neu 1515 1.5D (2700KV). Initial testing was done with a 1512 1.5D (3200KV), but I had better speed with the 1515 @ 2700KV and a HUGE wheel... X452/3, with some work done. Average Amps were around 115...

[Darin Jordan]

You have issues, my friend. Another of the "if I can't do it it's not possible" kind of guys. Perfect.

I'll tell you what, you come to a race where I'm racing and I'll personally help you get your boat up to speed. You'll have to step outside your current box to make it happen, but if I can do it, any of you can.

As for the speeds of my boats... times are official, so I couldn't fudge them even if I want to.

Oh... and as for your "speed calculator"... nice baseline.... how much tuning and prop work has that program done?

[Darin Jordan]

Oh... and one more thing... I know you are super duper knowledgeable about this boat racing setup, but for N2, I wasn't using any of those motors you listed there... those are heat racing motors for offshore racing... but I'm sure you already considered that in your discussion. ..

[Doby]

but I'm sure you already considered that in your discussion. ..

Not sure to much was actually considered in his response...

[Doby]

I'll tell you what, you come to a race where I'm racing and I'll personally help you get your boat up to speed.

I'll take you up on that at the Nats..

[Darin Jordan]

I'll take you up on that at the Nats..

You got it, Doby.

[mannytx1]

Oh... and one more thing... I know you are super duper knowledgeable about this boat racing setup, but for N2, I wasn't using any of those motors you listed there... those are heat racing motors for offshore racing... but I'm sure you already considered that in your discussion. ..

Mystic_29_minus2_011.jpg
N-2 Catamaran
Darin Jordan
Nov-13
sec3.447
mph65.27

motor NEU????????????????????????????????????kv

hull Pro Boat Mystic Minus Two
prop ABC 1818

[TheShaughnessy]

My mystic runs in the high 40s. Gps'd at 47 on glass. A little ripple is good for a couple mph. Since that run my prop was cupped some too so it's even faster now. Getting a geico to 50 isn't overly difficult by any means, even on the stock power system. I had a cheap hk 4074 in one and was running over 55.

[Doby]

Mystic_29_minus2_011.jpg
N-2 Catamaran
Darin Jordan
Nov-13
sec3.447
mph65.27

motor NEU????????????????????????????????????kv

hull Pro Boat Mystic Minus Two
prop ABC 1818

I think this was the motor he used....

http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pro...u-2230&cat=117

[mannytx1]

We hope that this is not the end of the legend
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[mannytx1]

I think this was the motor he used....

http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pro...u-2230&cat=117

motor neu2230 725KV, 485KV in 2S


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