20 Trillion by 2019

[domwilson]

Well, at least there are SOME things that we can agree upon.

How and why that came to pass may be subject to debate though....

It's pretty easy. They have kept the people distracted with petty disageements and overblown scenarios; put us in fear of real and imaginary enemies. Then these same people who we put our trust in, pass laws that eventually come back to haunt us. Disinformation, plausible deniability up to now have been their tools. But now they just say that they don't remember and we stupidly accept that. Maybe it's me. But doesn't anybody find it odd that a group of millionaires dictate who should shoulder the financial burden in this country?

[Dr. Jet]

...with the exception of one numchuk with a mental disorder and his league of extrordinary henchmen, trying to re-interpret the consititution for us.

The only reason you believe that to be true is based on what the media has portrayed. Have you ever considered that the media may have an agenda, an ulterior motive in what they present as "news"?

You never met the man, yet you know he has a mental disorder. How did you come to that diagnosis? Read it in the newspaper? See it on TV? Maybe you saw it on NPR.

Mind you, I was VERY disappointed in much of what he did. He was a fiscal socialist (especially well manifested towards the end of his second term), and anything but a Conservative.

Just for the record, I no longer consider myself a Republican per se. That party has failed me miserably. I am a Conservative, and until recently, the Republican Party was the only home for Conservatives. Today, the Republicans are just a bunch of Leftists and Big-Government advocates. Replublicrats, Demicans, they are all virtually the same now. On the other hand, I used to be a Democrat (back in the early 60s) until I gained some common sense and wisdom (it comes with age and experience young man) and learned to look through the media lies, distortions, and most influential: omissions. The current Democratic Party is nothing more than a Socialist front group for the Unions and the fringe kooks (global warming hoax advocates, save the transgendered polar bears, save the unborn gay whales, anti-nuke power, and so forth). Today’s Socialist Democrats bear nothing in common with John F. Kennedy and the media’s vision at that time of “Cameot”. JFK actually cut taxes, knowing it would revitalize the economy and increase revenue to the Federal Treasury (tax cuts always result in increased tax revenue - Truman, Kennedy, Reagan, Bush). Yes, I voted for Nixon, Goldwater, Nixon, Reagan, Bush I, and Bush II, Dole, McCain (had to hold my nose for that guy) because they were the lesser of two evils. Better said, I voted AGAINST the other guy (with the exception of Ronaldus Magnus: He was a man I could and did vote FOR – twice).

You want real change? NEVER vote for ANY incumbent politician. Throw the bums out. Work for term limits (one term buddy, then C-YA), work for tort reform, secure our borders, make English the national language (you can speak Swahili at home all you like, but don’t expect me to listen to it when I drive through MacDonalds), and revitalize the American culture.

I lived through the 1950s and I believe that was this country’s finest hour. No one turned to the government for help (well, very few), because it was not necessary. Self-reliance, hard work, and rugged individualism was all you needed. Equal opportunity did not (and does not) mean equal outcome.

[sjslhill]

"lived through the 1950s and I believe that was this country’s finest hour. No one turned to the government for help (well, very few), because it was not necessary. Self-reliance, hard work, and rugged individualism was all you needed. Equal opportunity did not (and does not) mean equal outcome."

Until Vietnam and the protest freaks that ruined the country.......also, the Gov in a usless war that they never wanted to win.

[domwilson]

I am neither republican or democrat. The two party system is a failure. It's like a man and a woman on a desert island. Eventually they're going to sleep together. As far as G.W.? been watching him since he was governor of Texas. Probably because they tried to extradite a man from El Cajon for a crime in Texas he didn't commit and a high execution rate at that time. He didn't strike me as very smart individual back then. I admired Nixon's strength. The media...c'mon...the same joker's who waited on a beach for U.S. Seals to land for a secret mission. They have no integrity what so ever. Bottom line...Those guys in washington have turned us into life long indentured servants.

[AndyKunz]

A big chunk of it goes to support criminals that break our laws

You mean like Congress and Cabinet members?

Andy

[Dr. Jet]

You mean like Congress and Cabinet members?

Andy

Yeah, them too. In fact, ESPECIALLY them. Tax Cheat Timmothy Geithner comes to mind, and then there's......

[Dr. Jet]

The media...They have no integrity what so ever. Bottom line...Those guys in washington have turned us into life long indentured servants.

Jeeze Dom, that's twice in one day we have agreed on something. I think I better step back from the computer for a while and recover.

[domwilson]

Think about this...You have a bunch of wealthy old farts. They get to give themselves raises. People groveling at their feet. You really think they care about us...They're grumpy old men or menapause maids who's only real agenda is to protect what they have and to get what you have.

[Dr. Jet]

Lefties and Righties Unite! Throw the bums out!! Incumbent = Political death. "R" or "D".

I believe it was Thomas Jefferson that said something like: "A government that has the power to give you any thing you want, has the power to take what you have."

Term limits, tort reform PLUS "Borders, Language, Culture." Return America to its former greatness by promoting freedom, liberty and a free (from government intrusion) economy.

For those of you living in foreign countries: You want to become an American? Follow our laws, immigrate legally, learn English, study American history, take the citizenship test, take the loyalty oath, and welcome aboard. If you're just here for the free stuff, get the hell out; don't let the door hit you in the bum on your way (note that there is nothing in there about race - I could be talking about Mexicans or Swedes, it's all the same)!

[domwilson]

Lefties and Righties Unite! Throw the bums out!! Incumbent = Political death.

Term limits, tort reform PLUS "Borders, Language, Culture." Return America to its former greatness by promoting freedom, liberty and a free (from government intrusion) economy.

For those of you living in foreign countries: You want to become an American? Follow our laws, immigrate legally, learn English, study American history, take the citizenship test, take the loyalty oath, and welcome aboard. If you're just here for the free stuff, get the hell out; don't let the door hit you in the bum on your way (note that there is nothing in there about race - I could be talking about Mexicans or Swedes, it's all the same)!

Now this sounds more reasonable. This is something that can be controlled. I thought those were the requirements to be a Naturalized U.S. Citizen.

[RCprince]

http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/15/...of-corruption/

[RCprince]

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/...n1740900.shtml

[Dr. Jet]

...with the exception of one numchuk with a mental disorder

If George W. Bush had made a joke at the expense of the Special Olympics, would you have approved?

If George W. Bush said he visited all 57 States you would have slammed him for being stupid.

If George W. Bush had given Gordon Brown a set of inexpensive and incorrectly formatted DVDs, when Gordon Brown had given him a thoughtful and historically significant gift, would you have approved?

If George W. Bush had given the Queen of England an iPod containing videos of his speeches, would you have thought this embarrassingly narcissistic and tacky?

If George W. Bush had bowed to the King of Saudi Arabia, would you have approved?

If George W. Bush had visited Austria and made reference to the non-existent "Austrian language," would you have brushed it off as a minor slip?

If George W. Bush had filled his cabinet and circle of advisers with people who cannot seem to keep current on their income taxes, would you have approved?


If George W. Bush had been so Spanish illiterate as to refer to "Cinco de Cuatro" in front of the Mexican ambassador when it was the fourth of May (Cuatro de Mayo), and continued to flub it when he tried again, would you have winced in embarrassment?


If George W. Bush had mis-spelled the word advice would you have hammered him for it for years like Dan Quayle and potatoe as "proof" of what a dunce he is?


If George W. Bush had burned 9,000 gallons of jet fuel to go plant a single tree on "Earth Day", would you have concluded he's a hypocrite?


If George W. Bush's administration had okayed Air Force One flying low over millions of people followed by a jet fighter in downtown Manhattan causing widespread panic, would you have wondered whether they actually "get" what happened on 9-11?


If George W. Bush had been the first President to need a teleprompter installed to be able to get through a press conference, would you have laughed and said this is more proof of how he inept he is on his own and is really controlled by smarter men behind the scenes?


If George W. Bush had failed to send relief aid to flood victims throughout the Midwest with more people killed or made homeless than in New Orleans , would you want it made into a major ongoing political issue with claims of racism and incompetence?

If George W. Bush had ordered the firing of the CEO of a major corporation, even though he had no constitutional authority to do so, would you have approved?

If George W. Bush had proposed to double the national debt, which had taken more than two centuries to accumulate, in one year, would you have
approved?
If George W. Bush had then proposed to double the debt again within 10 years, would you have approved?


If George W. Bush had reduced your retirement plan's holdings of GM stock by 90% and given the unions a majority stake in GM, would you have approved?

If George W. Bush had spent hundreds of thousands of dollars to take Laura Bush to a play in NYC, would you have approved?


So, tell me again, what is it about Obama that makes him so brilliant and impressive? Can't think of anything? Don't worry. He's done all this in 5 months -- so you'll have three years and seven months to come up with an answer.

[domwilson]

Can't debate whether Obama is a brilliant man as he has not served a full term.
But for a longer list of Bush errors...Just Google "Bushisms"
But ask yourself this...If Bush was all that great of a president, would this country be in it's current state? After all, he pushed that snowball down the hill...

[Steven Vaccaro]

I just did my part to help my fair city. I paid my Parking Tickets. Think the credit card companies are bandits. How does a city get away with a $15 ticket becoming a $45 ticket if not paid within 21 days

[Flying Scotsman]

Dom, the Doctor has got you on his latest response, but time will tell. I love the repartee. It makes people think.

Douggie

[ghostofpf1]

The "Dr" yet again simply cut and pastes from someone else's blog or email forwarding.A simple Google search of any part of it shows it's origins

Steve

[Steven Vaccaro]

The "Dr" yet again simply cut and pastes from someone else's blog or email forwarding.A simple Google search of any part of it shows it's origins

Steve

Whats the difference if its correct?

[domwilson]

Dom, the Doctor has got you on his latest response, but time will tell. I love the repartee. It makes people think.

Douggie

Not really. I just didn't want to take the time to respond in greater detail as Bush has made far many more errors. But again I ask, If Bush was all that great, would this country be in the mess that it is in now? Sure Obama has made some mistakes, but he is only a man. A man that is fighting an uphill battle against years of misteps by previous administrations.

[Dr. Jet]

The "Dr" yet again simply cut and pastes from someone else's blog or email forwarding.A simple Google search of any part of it shows it's origins

Steve

Of course I did a cut-and-paste; I never said I didn't. I've seen this document before, but somebody just sent me that email again. I stuck it in here because I thought it was current and pertinenet to this discussion.

[ghostofpf1]

Whats the difference if its correct?

Is it ??

Steve

[Dr. Jet]

Sure Obama has made some mistakes, but he is only a man. A man that is fighting an uphill battle against years of misteps by previous administrations.

And GW is not "just a man"? And did he not have an uphill battle against a hostile media, and years of missteps by previous administrations?

Mind you, I do not support or condone much of what he did, I just think the media was relentless in their attacks against him, yet they grovel at the feet of BHO. The double standard is amazing to watch, yet the uninformed never see it as they consume the propaganda spewed forth by the state-controlled media.

[Steven Vaccaro]

I said it before, I will say it again. Bush and O dont were crowns for a reason. Last I checked we are still not a Monarchy. There are far more people that are guilty of causing our problems then the one guy in the Oval Office.

[Flying Scotsman]

An, interesting article written in a Canadian newspaper by a reporter that views the USA

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...rticle1264167/

Douggie

[domwilson]

I said it before, I will say it again. Bush and O dont were crowns for a reason. Last I checked we are still not a Monarchy. There are far more people that are guilty of causing our problems then the one guy in the Oval Office.

That is why I stated in my post that Dr. Jet was referring to.."with the exception of one numchuk with a mental disorder and his league of extrordinary henchmen,"

It wasn't/hasn't been one person who was/is guilty of the disservice that has been done to this country.

[Steven Vaccaro]

That is why I stated in my post that Dr. Jet was referring to.."with the exception of one numchuk with a mental disorder and his league of extrordinary henchmen,"

It wasn't/hasn't been one person who was/is guilty of the disservice that has been done to this country.

Agreed!

[Punisher 67]

Great article Douggie

[Dr. Jet]

It wasn't/hasn't been one person who was/is guilty of the disservice that has been done to this country.

True, but one person DOES get to pick a lot of his henchmen. By the way, have you noticed how many Czars BHO has appointed? These Czars are accountable to only one person, they are not elected, and yet they control far too much of private individual's freedoms. A "Car Czar"? a "Pay Czar"? Why should the government be involved in what a private business pays its employees? I can see it where the government REQUIRES that you do business with that company (federally run/financed organizations like the FAA or federally-mandated business like the Freddie/Fanny), but how and why should the President of the United States determine what the president of Acme Roadrunner Traps makes?

When you boil everything down, there are probably less than 1,000 men and women that control EVERYTHING this government does. 535 congressmen, a president, his cabinet, the VP, department heads, and of course, all those Czars. 3.5 million people RULED by 1,000 self-interested politicians.

Throw the Bums Out!

[domwilson]

True, but one person DOES get to pick a lot of his henchmen. By the way, have you noticed how many Czars BHO has appointed? These Czars are accountable to only one person, they are not elected, and yet they control far too much of private individual's freedoms. A "Car Czar"? a "Pay Czar"? Why should the government be involved in what a private business pays its employees? I can see it where the government REQUIRES that you do business with that company (federally run/financed organizations like the FAA or federally-mandated business like the Freddie/Fanny), but how and why should the President of the United States determine what the president of Acme Roadrunner Traps makes?

When you boil everything down, there are probably less than 1,000 men and women that control EVERYTHING this government does. 535 congressmen, a president, his cabinet, the VP, department heads, and of course, all those Czars. 3.5 million people RULED by 1,000 self-interested politicians.

Throw the Bums Out!

The "Pay Czar" overlooks the salaries of CEO's who took money from the bailouts. It's to keep these guys from taking the kind of risks, for their own benefits, that got us into this mess. Presidents have been doing this "Czar" thing for years. They just had different names for it. Usually calling them ambassador or secretary. And yes, we do have a relatively small group of wealthy individuals who dictate what the 300 million of us do.
But bickering amonst ourselves does nothing more than strengthening their resolve. Let those guys have their bipartisanship and we the people should unite and let them know we don't approve of their actions. And that corporations don't run our government, we do.

[ghostofpf1]

Obama's Czars are nothing new .....only more fire for right leaning innuendos..
Their darling gwb appointed 12 of them himself


"Bush II continued with a Drug Czar and then added a Cybersecurity Czar in 2001, a Regulatory Czar in 2003 along with another AIDS Czar. Bush also added a Faith-based Czar.
In 2004, Bush appointed a Manufacturing Czar. Then in 2005, Bush added a Katrina Czar, a Bird Flu Czar, an Intelligence Czar, a Copyright Czar and finally a War Czar in 2007.
Also, with the disbursement of the TARP funds, Bush appointed a TARP Czar. "

Steve