Seaking Boat ESC recalled by factory

**sailr** · 08-09-2009, 06:45 PM

If it has a 'sensitivity' setting, set it to non-sensitive.

Originally Posted by TRXRUSTLER

I don't use Auto cell count I specifically set it to a 3s lipo and 3.0v a LVC, and it still cuts off at 4.0v a cell.

**cacofonix** · 08-10-2009, 04:19 AM

hi there

one thing i don't understand, is that Hobbywing recall all faulty esc, but when looking to ebay
many are still for sale .........

does it mean that those shop sell faulty esc ???

thanks

herve

**fenalx** · 08-10-2009, 04:27 AM

It seems that not all vendors known about the recall. I do not wish to think that some vendors know about the recall and are still selling faulty items.

I think it is HobbyWing responsibility to ensure that no faulty ESCs are sold since they are ultimately responsible for the good operation of any ESCs produced by them.

**cacofonix** · 08-10-2009, 04:31 AM

ok, so 2 options for me
- some vendor sell faulty ecs
- others sell esc without stock

thanks fenalx

**Raydee** · 08-10-2009, 06:40 AM

Originally Posted by cacofonix

hi there

one thing i don't understand, is that Hobbywing recall all faulty esc, but when looking to ebay
many are still for sale .........

does it mean that those shop sell faulty esc ???

thanks

herve

That is exactly right. I bought three ESC's off a Ebay vendor the day before it was posted that there was a recall on them. I spent the last 7 days trying to get a refund on the controllers. The Ebay vendor was unaware that there were any problems or recalls on the controllers. Luckily for me I got my full refund this morning

**Brod** · 08-10-2009, 08:26 AM

Well did a few more runs on my 180 on 5S last nite,managed to time 8 mins on all batts. esc. came in very cool,no probs.
Possibly the 'fault' could just be the LVC setting? which i turn off on all my escs anyway.
Brod..

**Tony** · 08-10-2009, 08:40 AM

Brod,
I am disconnecting the BEC , and run it with a seperate batt pack. Think that may work too?

**sailr** · 08-10-2009, 09:11 AM

It means they have stock on hand and are either ignoring the recall, ignorant of the recall, or don't care because they know it costs you an arm and a leg to send it back.

Originally Posted by cacofonix

hi there

one thing i don't understand, is that Hobbywing recall all faulty esc, but when looking to ebay
many are still for sale .........

does it mean that those shop sell faulty esc ???

thanks

herve

**ray schrauwen** · 08-10-2009, 09:18 AM

Originally Posted by fenalx

Here's an update after doing some research...

I contacted a number of sites, and it seems that Seaking retailers have been asked to halt sales of all Seaking (and Turnigy since they are the same) ESC.

The new revised version should be available within a week.

I have a 120a version on order. Will keep you posted once i receive revised version.

OOOH *!***!***!***!**.

I just got 2 of these and gave one to buddy. I better try to send my SeaKing back.

I just got them last week and they did say Version2 ???

No idea what I should do???

**sailr** · 08-10-2009, 09:21 AM

I wish I could tell you just what the BUG is they are going to fix. I'm in touch with the factory but they didn't share the exact details with me. There are a lot of the Seaking's running with no problems. I would say if you have one, go ahead and use it. The owner of Hobbywing, the manufacturer of the Seaking, is a very meticulous guy. He wants to make only the best. If any slight problem shows up, even if it's rare, he is going to fix it! That's just the way he is.

**Brod** · 08-10-2009, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by Tony

Brod,
I am disconnecting the BEC , and run it with a seperate batt pack. Think that may work too?

I've run 4,5&6S with the bec and seems fine,so far.
Cant really see the point of a exterior bec,but maybe worth a try.
I've disconnected the red wire before on other escs,and gone exterior, but not the 180 Seaking one..
Brod..

**cacofonix** · 08-10-2009, 02:25 PM

hi there

i use a 180A for about 2 month on a LIZARD hull with a 6S pack (Flymax 5000)
BEC die after 2 or 3 run.

ESC is still alive, cross my fingers ......

herve

**Tony** · 08-10-2009, 04:27 PM

So, maybe the BEC is the cause to "short" problem . I'll be using 6S2p Turnigy 5000 parrallel with this esc. Hopefully, disconnecting the BEC solves it.

**sailr** · 08-10-2009, 04:34 PM

Have any of your guys tried programming with the program box? Just curious

**cacofonix** · 08-10-2009, 04:38 PM

Originally Posted by sailr

Have any of your guys tried programming with the program box? Just curious

hello

i use the prog box since i bought it

and i think this is why BEC died. 3th time i use prog box + BEC + external batt
don't ask me why

now BEc deliver 3v = out

herve

**sailr** · 08-10-2009, 04:39 PM

interesting!

**bustitup** · 08-10-2009, 04:43 PM

I dont think you are supposed to use any internal bec above 3s

in my opinion internal bec's suck any way.....real FE users allways use external receiver bat packs

**cacofonix** · 08-10-2009, 04:45 PM

hummm

many friends use it on 6S with internal BEC without problem (by now ......)
most on LIZARD hull

herve

**drwayne** · 08-10-2009, 06:03 PM

External Rx battery ( disconnect the red wire) also disables the esc onboard signal loss failsafe.
Real FE ppl ?.. dont be so bloody omnipotent. Real FE ppl make their own considerations and do whatever makes their setup the best. :)
SK180 ESC BEC is great until power is fedback via the Rx lead, Have seen only one toasted.. power was off and owner started to rotate rudder left to right to left to right.. fed power back to esc and POP.
Purely organic related failure.

Wayne.

**raptor347** · 08-10-2009, 06:44 PM

I killed a SK180, but I know exactly when, how and why. Rotor seized and took the ESC with it. Before that, it was flawless on 6S using the BEC and driving a very serious servo for steering.

I liked it enough to buy another one. It's going in the same outrigger with a Neu 1527/1Y and a setup that draws ~110 amps. It should be an interesting test.

**bustitup** · 08-11-2009, 12:21 AM

Originally Posted by raptor347

I killed a SK180, but I know exactly when, how and why. Rotor seized and took the ESC with it. Before that, it was flawless on 6S using the BEC and driving a very serious servo for steering.

I liked it enough to buy another one. It's going in the same outrigger with a Neu 1527/1Y and a setup that draws ~110 amps. It should be an interesting test.

were you using the LVC?

**raptor347** · 08-11-2009, 01:59 AM

No LVC. I like to tune the race setups by capacity used and temp. Start conservative and work your way up.

I did use the programming box on the new one I set up today. Worked like a charm. Forward only, 6 cell lipo, 3.2V cut off,7.5 degrees. It has VERY smooh throttle response and a nice start up even with the big old nasty 1527 Neu.

Testing this weekend. I'll let you guys know how it goes.

**KUKIE39** · 08-11-2009, 09:43 AM

Greetings from Spanish FEboater:

I use two of this XXX180A for a while since the first ones appears at hobbycity and no any problem.

Used in a Matrix rigger powering a FEIGAO 540-9XL and drawing around 100Amps continuosly during 5 minutes on 5S, OF COURSE WITHOUT BEC, and I can tell you guys that no any problem found any time. Even in a race, the rigger crash against another boat and make a big hole in the hull, so the boat was under water several minutes till race finished, I got out the controller from the rigger, keep it almost an hour under sun shines while repairing the hull, mounted again and makes two runs more. I must tell you that before mount the ESC for the first time, i had filled out all joints and any posible hole with Silicone to prevent water inside.

Also used in a Hopf´s "El Diabolo" cat moving a BK Wanderer 540 size, 2212Kv with a graupner carbon/plastic 42mm prop, ALSO WITHOUT BEC, and still working perfectly.

No any problems found on any ways on the Turnigy180A ESC (Cross my fingers).

**sailr** · 08-11-2009, 10:04 AM

Can you imagine....the new reworked one should be even better? Wow!

**KUKIE39** · 08-11-2009, 10:09 AM

You are right Sailr, any upgrade work on this ESC is always wellcome in my opinion they are so good as Jetti or ETTI, Schulzer, etc for a quoter of the price.

**bustitup** · 08-11-2009, 11:36 AM

Originally Posted by raptor347

No LVC. I like to tune the race setups by capacity used and temp. Start conservative and work your way up.

I did use the programming box on the new one I set up today. Worked like a charm. Forward only, 6 cell lipo, 3.2V cut off,7.5 degrees. It has VERY smooh throttle response and a nice start up even with the big old nasty 1527 Neu.

Testing this weekend. I'll let you guys know how it goes.

I am a little confused here....you said NO LVC but you did set the new one with 3.2 cut off?

**raptor347** · 08-11-2009, 11:47 AM

I want to try it and see how/if it works.

**bustitup** · 08-11-2009, 12:00 PM

Originally Posted by raptor347

I want to try it and see how/if it works.

ok thats kind of what I thought but wanted to verify

good luck with it ....I set up my first turnigy 180 amp like that (3.2 cut off) and when I put the boat in the water it ran about half speed

hope you have better luck

**ray schrauwen** · 08-11-2009, 01:31 PM

Originally Posted by raptor347

No LVC. I like to tune the race setups by capacity used and temp. Start conservative and work your way up.

Testing this weekend. I'll let you guys know how it goes.

Exactly Brian, Thats what i do...

My Ebay seller has sent me this note after I asked about the recall:

Hi Ray,

Thank you for your enquires. We would like to declare that the re-call is done by Hobbywing, and we were just been notified. To express our sinceress, this item can be refunded by request in brand new condition. Thank you for your kind attention.

Should you have any questions, please feel free to contact us.

Have a nice day!

Thanks & Regards,
plus2

Thats nice to hear. How much does it cost to send it back to Hong Kong???

Maybe just Keep it.

**Tony** · 08-11-2009, 04:33 PM

$20 -$25 usps to HK.

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