Andy & Paddy

[Xzessperated]

No... No... No.. you then would have to put up with insults from every corner of the earth. Now, if you had said Scottish all would have been forgiven and you could retire to a sheep farm and drink whisky and dream of the boats you could have built with the knowledge that those twits from the BIG ISLAND would not intrude on your superior boat building skills.

Love you Paddy and Andy..Chuck with his new avatar, I am now concerned as to his mental health

Douggie

Chuck told me that Diegoboy builds the slowest boats on Loch Fembot

[Flying Scotsman]

The suspense is killing me where are you dead parrots

Douggie

[andym]

No Sub Chuck, I feel yor pain. I set you a target of 10-15mm so you would but alot of effort into the CoB BEFORE you start blowing over. Very Very Sneakey of me don't you think?. I know that at 60mm you will be called back Flipper by your mates, 30-40 is Okay. What HW do you have on it? It is not one of those forgiving boats on CoB as some are, my sport 20 can change CoB by 2" and it is still rock solid. The xs2 will need deeper strut depth the further back your CoB is and as we all know the deeper the strut the slower your XS2 will go. The rudder can help stop you going over as well by having a degree or two OUT angle. This helps stop the stern dropping and if your rudder is on the left helps keep the inside sponson planted in turns. Very handy when cornering at 60+

[Flying Scotsman]

Now, we are talking....Fembots??
Please note Andy is trying to be serious.
Plus another video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eMkth8FWno


Douggie

[egneg]

The wire drive is 68mm past the stuffing tube now - can I get a new wire and extend that - moving the motor forward? BTW I have the carbon rod cut and the supports are glassed in now.

Paddy are you trying to cause a rift between Fembot members?

[Flying Scotsman]

Just love Chuck, and if many comments of many comments that I make are not understood. I will pass away. I just love humour. Douggie the twit

[egneg]

For U Douggie - I <3 U 2.

[andym]

Do mean 68mm of uncovered wire? If so then replace the stuffing tube. You know the drill beg , borrow or steal a hair drier, heat up the epoxy and peel it away

[egneg]

Yes 68mm of uncovered wire. Thanks Andy I will pull the stuffing tube and replace it - what do you recommend for the wire exposure?

[Flying Scotsman]

Chuck, you have blessed me in a language I thought that was meant for the high intellect of our peers...love you mate

Douggie the ugly

[Xzessperated]

Paddy are you trying to cause a rift between Fembot members?

Chuck how could you say such a thing? I am not one to promote discord amongst my fellow boaters. To the contrary, I was elected because of my stand on harmony and fellowship amongst FE boaters all over the world.

Douggie I loved the video. You will have to excuse Andy as he told me on the phone last night that his best friends wife is having a baby.... Andy's.

[andym]

Chuck I have about 15mm on the sport 20 with no problems. It supports it's self well but 68mm seems a bit extreme.
Paddy what is wrong with my best mates wife having my baby? That is what good friends are for .........................................

[Simon.O.]

Yes 68mm of uncovered wire. Thanks Andy I will pull the stuffing tube and replace it - what do you recommend for the wire exposure?

On a 062 wire I have over 100 mm exposed between the stuff tube and strut on a couple of hulls with no visable whip or vibration.
At the motor end there is a tendancy for the wire to whip when it is in a straight line from the coupler to the stuff tube. 50mm is fine for my applications.
If you want some photos I can put them here or e-mail them to you.

[egneg]

Simon please post some pics. I am very interested in the wire drives and I know of no one local that has one. The way this one is done the main stuffing tube is one size and there are smaller tubes at each end that act as bearings/bushings if you will. I was thinking that I could extend the original tube with a new bearing tube at he motor end.

Chuck

[Simon.O.]

Chuck, here are a few pics of my wires.
You are right, it is normal to have a small tube over the wire that is then stepped up and up to a larger set of tubes to make the stuffing tube.
I do this so that there is only a short length at each end of the stuff tube that contacts the wire. There are a couple of good maintenance reasons too.
Here ya go.

[Flying Scotsman]

Enough about wires, let us get serious

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xToPCaNxaow

Douggie

[egneg]

Thanks for the pics Simon. I think I will try and splice into the existing tube and add 50mm or so at the motor end. I think if I use a larger tube that is fairly long that it will be aligned without having to remove it and start over.

P.S. Paddy I was only kidding!

P.S.S Douggie that bit is at least 30 years old.

[Flying Scotsman]

Yes, but it is still a great comic venue..much better than the potty humour we get today.

Douggie

[Xzessperated]

P.S. Paddy I was only kidding!

Me too Chuck. If I was not kidding I would have told Diegoboy what you really said about his boats.

Douggie I still love that humor. Chuck is still a bit young to appreciate it yet. I must admit Chuck is on to something with this Evil Roy Slade though. That guy could be Andy's brother.

[Flying Scotsman]

This one is for Chuck as the US tourist

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGm5XWPMB5U


Douggie

[egneg]

Douggie this is for you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Es0t5...rom=PL&index=1

[Flying Scotsman]

That is a cracker, but the lads were wearing underpants???

Dooggie

[egneg]

That is a cracker, but the lads were wearing underpants???

Dooggie

I sure as h*ll hope so!!!

[andym]

I have set up my sport 20 to run a .150 flex and then just wacked a .078 wire drive in. NO special tube, run stuffing tube into strut as normal. This works great, no slap, no water in the hull and easy to use. Now Jeff has the compresion coupler to suit the .078 even better.

[egneg]

Andy and Simon this very interesting - 2 different approaches that both seem to work. Andy may I ask why you took this approach? Did you want the option of using a cable?

[andym]

Chuck I started with the flex but it vibrated badly, i think due to length. It is a nice easy bend so tried a wire drive. Fixed the problem, boat was faster, did not sound like a vibrator on Viagra and it worked well.

[NativePaul]

One for the Jocks and Kiwis

I run a hull with 17" of 2mm wire, less than 2" of stuffing tube, the only bearings are inside the motor and strut, the stuffing tube is oversize and the only part that makes contact is the bit of fuel tubing around the end of the stuffing tube that I use to stop water ingress and it runs fine with no whip or vibration, I take the thrust at the strut, passing the thrust to the motor may introduce whip but I've never tried it to be sure.

[Flying Scotsman]

Now, I have called Andy and Paddy idiots, here is their redemption. Andy is very easy to spot, Paddy is more cunning

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNBNq...eature=related

And one for Australia.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_f_p0...eature=related

Douggie

[egneg]

I run a hull with 17" of 2mm wire, less than 2" of stuffing tube, the only bearings are inside the motor and strut, the stuffing tube is oversize and the only part that makes contact is the bit of fuel tubing around the end of the stuffing tube that I use to stop water ingress and it runs fine with no whip or vibration, I take the thrust at the strut, passing the thrust to the motor may introduce whip but I've never tried it to be sure.

Another approach that works ... maybe I will try it the way it is first and then make changes if needed.

[egneg]

I had to go back 7 pages for this thread. Anyway I have everything installed and bench tested. While I was checking everything I noticed that the rudder was angled in a bit. I changed it so it angled out a bit and was wondering what you guys had for rudder angle or do you keep it perpendicular to the sponson/strut plane?