3 excellent hardware upgrades...

[dodge4x4]

Blackjack 26 drive train upgrade #1 ........... OK 2 EXCELLENT AND ONE BUDGET HARDWARE UPGRADE..

Fuller and speedmaster
Parts list Offshore Electric part numbers.
Drive cable .150 X 3/16 P/N HUG-E1067SP $23.99
Stuffing tube liner ¼ X .150 P/N OCT150T-24 $2.75
Bullet prop nut P/N OC6PNMM $2.99
Rudder Speedmaster mini rudder P/N ROS-MINI_RUD $39.95
Octura Coupler Short P/N OCT OCFHE 5MM 15S $9.95 (OPTIONAL)
NOTE
You can use the offshore electric Drive cable .150 X 3/16 assembled
$19.99 or assemble it yourself for $9.99.. But you will need to run the threads farther on the shaft to be able to position the shaft properly in the strut.

Fuller Parts
31/4 HV SUPER strut bracket fuller prod code 332 $24.95
12-32 cell SUPERSTRUT 21/2” for 150 cable and 3/16 stub shaft
Product code 292 $23.00

Blackjack 26 drive train upgrade #2 and #3
For the budget minded
Two options here . One being that you can order the hardware for the
Formula Fastech for around $50.00 but you will still be running the 1/8
Inch drive shaft.. ( Less prop options)

The setups number 2 and number 3 require minimal Drilling. As number 2 may only
require drilling the holes for the rudder and number 3 requires you drill for the rudder
and fill and re drill the two bottom holes for the strut bracket. Also number 2 and 3 allow you to leave the radio box intact for a factory look, Also the old filled holes for the strut bracket are hidden under the bracket and not visable on setup #3..

Fuller and Proboat upgrade #3 (gets rid of the 1/8 shaft for the more poplar 3/16 one)

2 inch HV SUPER strut bracket fuller prod code 333 $22.95
12-32 cell SUPERSTRUT 21/2” for 150 cable and 3/16 stub shaft
Product code 292 $23.00

Offshore electric
Contact Steve and he can order the formula fastech rudder for $18.99
Drive cable .150 X 3/16 P/N HUG-E1067SP $23.99
Stuffing tube liner ¼ X .150 P/N OCT150T-24 $2.75
Bullet prop nut P/N OC6PNMM $2.99
Octura Coupler Short P/N OCT OCFHE 5MM 15S $9.95 (OPTIONAL)

NOTE
You can use the offshore electric Drive cable .150 X 3/16 assembled
$19.99 or assemble it yourself for $9.99. But you will need to run the threads farther on the shaft to be able to position the shaft properly in the strut.

NOTE
All these setups put the prop very close to or behind the back of the rudder thus
Eliminating prop wash from hitting the rudder.. Which I believe helps with speed.
By DODGE 4X4

[dodge4x4]

Also I almost forgot. Fullers strut brackets can be mounted two different ways.
thats radius up or radius down. I prefer radius down. but if you mount radius up
you can use the shorter super strut thats 1 7/8 inch long versis the 2 1/2 inch strut.
I've got one each way and they work well either way. You will have more down /neg
prop adjustment with the 2 1/2" strut but I haven't found that theres any advantage to it.

[Darin Jordan]

You might also consider the ProBoat ThunderCat 31 (TC31) strut assembly...

http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...ProdID=PRB2757



It's setup for a 3/16" stubshaft.


The BJ26 SS rudder also looks like a nice unit:

http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...ProdID=PRB2824





As soon as I'm finished with the updates to my Elam, I'm going to start another race prep build of the BJ26 FE, and I intend to use the parts above to do the conversion to fixed drive...

This update, and some rid-pad work, are all I really see as being needed to make this a competitive setup for the LSO class...

[dodge4x4]

TC 31 strut looks pretty good but I went with the fastech rudder because
I like the polished metal look. I buff all parts out to a mirror finish before instalation.
also not a red fan...

[Darin Jordan]

That's cool... I believe it's exactly the same part without the anodizing...

[dodge4x4]

Yes it is.

[drew]

Is this the speedmaster one?
http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pro...d=ros-21-strut

[dodge4x4]

No thats not the one I use. The speedmaster mini rudder and the Fuller strut
and bracket are the ones I have tested.
But that strut might work if you get the right bracket combo.
I perfer the fuller strut as it seems to be of higher qualtity.

[dodge4x4]

fuller strut and bracket

[frdvschvy]

You might also consider the ProBoat ThunderCat 31 (TC31) strut assembly...

http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...ProdID=PRB2757



It's setup for a 3/16" stubshaft.


The BJ26 SS rudder also looks like a nice unit:

http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...ProdID=PRB2824





As soon as I'm finished with the updates to my Elam, I'm going to start another race prep build of the BJ26 FE, and I intend to use the parts above to do the conversion to fixed drive...

This update, and some rid-pad work, are all I really see as being needed to make this a competitive setup for the LSO class...

Great idea with this cost effective combo! I ordered it up today and we'll see how the install and performance goes.

[drew]

Does the Fastech rudder have enough set back? I noticed the speedmaster has 2 "

[dodge4x4]

yes the fast-tech rudder has plenty of set back. It works great with the fuller
2" strut bracket and strut. And you can order the pro boat parts from Steve at offshore.

[frdvschvy]

yes the fast-tech rudder has plenty of set back. It works great with the fuller
2" strut bracket and strut. or with proboat TC31 strut and bracket. And you can order the pro boat parts from Steve at offshore.

I would definitely recommend going through Steve here at offshoreelectrics. The fast-tech rudder / TC31 strut and bracket combo only ended up being $43.

[Darin Jordan]

Hey guys... I just received my TC31 hardware and it's WAY too large for this application. I wouldn't have thought it'd be this bulky, but it is... It'd be great for a bigger application, but for the BJ26, I think it's just going to be too big...

Here is a picture of it, compared to others...

From Left to right:

Fuller's 6 to 8 cell
Fuller's 12-24 cell (short and long)
Speedmaster 21 Mono
TC31

It's too bad because the price is right and it's nice quality.

[drew]

Do you guys prefer the rudder off to the side or directly behind the prop?

[Apples1]

offset for circuit work, and inline for recreational usage. ! i like the solinger hardware that fastelectrics.com.au sell, it works great for me.

[dodge4x4]

I knew the tc31 rudder was huge but didn't know the strut was too. Thats why I use the fastech
rudder. And I also prefer the offset rudder as it will give you more speed than the inline will.

[dodge4x4]

Darin will the speedmaster strut fit in a fuller bracket?

[Darin Jordan]

Darin will the speedmaster strut fit in a fuller bracket?

I don't think so.... the SpeedMaster strut is quite a bit thicker than the Fuller's... I was thinking the same thing. The Fuller's would have to be machined out to fit.

But... when you order a SpeedMaster strut, you get the brackets with it... Not sure if the bolt pattern is the same...

I'm going to just use a SpeedMaster setup on my BJ26 and we'll see how it works with that... OR I'll Order another 2" Fuller's bracket and use the Fullers stuff...

Was really hoping to keep it to ProBoat parts... but I think all their smaller sized stuff also has small, 3mm or 1/8"??? stub-shaft bushings...

[dodge4x4]

I know with the fullers strut you only have to redrill the two bottom
holes as the top ones are in the right location.

[frdvschvy]

Wow, I did not realize the TC31 strut was so HUGE. I am glad you caught this. Just had Steve cancel the TC31 strut order and send the speedmaster setup instead.

[Darin Jordan]

Wow, I did not realize the TC31 strut was so HUGE. I am glad you caught this. Just had Steve cancel the TC31 strut order and send the speedmaster setup instead.

Yup... I just ordered a Fuller's 2" HV Super Strut from Ray to use with one of the struts in the picture, and also another SpeedMaster setup from Steven... I'll use the Fuller's setup on my BJ26 setup, with the BJ26 SS rudder assembly. Should work well together... though I wish now that I'd ordered the FASTech setup instead of the red SS setup... Maybe I'll have to do that...

[kookie_guy]

any idea if I can use this rudder? It's 95mm. Is that long enough? I'll be mounting up 2 of these for a custom dual rudder setup.

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...id=p2759.l1259

[dodge4x4]

thats about 3 3/4 inches right? If so that should be fine.

[ApacheDude]

So are these setups inline rudders or are you actually switching to offset?

Same question on the Solinger pieces, they are all offset correct?

[Apples1]

solinger is offset and a length of 78mm of blade plus upper mounting area, but only about 40-45mm is in use in full flight.

[dodge4x4]

All three of these setups are offset rudders. I'm not a big fan of inline
as they are usually extremely long...

[frdvschvy]

Just finished up a speedmaster 21 strut and fastech rudder combo. Came out pretty nice. The fastech rudder is a great piece for the price. Here is a picture. Sorry for the poor quality, it was taken with my phone.

IMG00004-20090312-2024.jpg

[dodge4x4]

Looks good.. I'm in the middle of two complete rebuilds right now
one with the fastech rudder and one with the speedmaster rudder.
one has the 2" fuller strut and the other has the 3.25 fuller strut.
will post pictures when done. I'm also remaking many parts in carbon fiber.

[jaybird]

Frdvschvy nice setup .Did the speed master 21 strut fit rite on. And how does that setup perform on the water.