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    Sorry it?s been a little while since I updated the build but life got in the way of goofing off. If you know what the pictures are of then you?ll understand the delay. My ?02 Jeep TJ had a badly leaking heater core. Well to fix it the engineers that designed the Jeep thought it would be great to make it so everything inside the Jeep forward of the seats has to come out all the way to the firewall just to swap out a 40$ part. Steering column and all. So I was busy. I got a little done on the boat after that so the next post will update ya.
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    Man that sucks Pete! Its like working on an old Jaguar. On some you need to remove the entire front clip, fenders and all just to get access the water pump bolts. Its as if there was no design consideration at all for any basic maintenance

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    I used to like working on cars, but now it’s not as fun. I can’t believe the front clip has to be pulled for a silly water pump. It’s got to be in purpose to force you to the dealer !!

    Time for the drive shaft install. I had to cut my build jig to allow the stuffing tube and strut to be mounted along with a hole for the lowered motor to allow the boat to sit flat. I made an alignment tool out of stainless to get the tube and the motor collet lined up to each other. Got it all squared up and secured the brass sleeve that holds the drive tube in place. I took a lot of time getting it as lined up as best as I could.
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    I drilled and countersunk the mounting bolt holes for my modified motor mount and then got it in place. I?ll make a small cover for the motor. I built the supports for the two 4000mah batteries. I used a couple of small carbon rods to give a place for the battery straps to hang on to along with cutting slots in the beefy structure next to the battery. That should be strong enough to hold them in place. The batteries sit at a bit of an angle to clear the prop shaft.
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    Not much progress to report. I had to go back to work, my shoulder is all healed up and now my wife and I managed to catch Covid for the first time so that?s kinda taking to zip out of me. Just before that happened I made the motor cover and got it secured and glassed over. Lots of cleanup work will need to be done. I?m also working on a cover to convert the air cooled speed control I have to water cooled. I?m going to see if 3D printing it will work. The jury is still out on that. If it doesn?t pan out I?ll carve one out of aluminum.
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    I have been working on the water cooling jacket for awhile. My CAD skills leave a lot to be desired. After a lot of trial and errors I have one that fits pretty good. I got it to fit better when I started cutting up the test prints to see what was going on with the fit to the fins of the esc. I don?t want to cut any fins down at this point. I figured pushing the water back and forth thru the fins will give me a lot of surface area to work with. I am going to seal the cover to the esc with rtv and use zip ties or lacing cord to mechanically hold the cover down. I have seen water cooling conversions done like this to the castle truck esc?s before the hydra came out. I don?t see why it won?t work with this esc. The cooling fins are all one piece and my cover only involves that plate. The rest of the esc stays dry and it?s listed as waterproof anyway.
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    Looking good Pete! That's an interesting idea on the 3D printing, and water cooling the fins themselves vs using a cooling plate.

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    Thanks ! This sure is fun building this boat. I sure hope it works! I got it RTV’d to the esc yesterday and leak checked it today. So far so good. It needs to hold up well, I’ll bet the boat would fill up quick if cooling water got loose inside the hull �� I printed it with PETG and at 100% infill so its pretty solid and should hold up to the temperatures the esc will create.
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    Today?s project was to make a collar to keep the wire drive from leaving the boat if the wire breaks near the motor collet. It?s my understanding that when these fail it?s usually near the motor and when it breaks the shaft and prop will leave the boat and end up at the bottom of the pond. I?m sure I could have bought something to do the job but where?s the fun in that ? I made the collar the way I did to try to have it as balanced as I could. The 2-56 cap screws are stainless so they have some weight so I made everything symmetrical down to measuring the length of the screws to the thousandth. I didn?t want the screw?s themselves pinching the wire drive and possibly scoring it creating a stress riser so I made it so the aluminum collar does the pinching. The little hole is drilled to the same .098 diameter as the wire drive. I ordered my first prop from Dasbota ( an 1815-17 ) and it?s not the most inexpensive thing in the world so I?d rather be able to not loose it if the shaft breaks. 😁
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    Some strong advice my friend.....install some very good flotation.Most people will use some sort of foam but I ALWAYS have used spray foam only because I felt that every void in the sponsons needed to be filled to prevent any water getting in and it also offered much more structural strength. Your boat will be very heavy when batteries are installed and if it is fast 60 mph and up your chances are greater of a flip or blow over.
    Your build looks fantastic and very well thought out....love it !!
    PT-45 109 mph and climbing
    H&M 1/8 Miss Bud 73 mph
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    Gary I will do just that. Every spot I can get foam into I’ll do it. I wasn’t sure about expanding foams water absorption so I went with styrofoam. The sponsons are very full of it and the rest of the hull will get as much as will fit. Expanding foam making the hull stronger makes a lot of sense. It’s too late for this boat but I’ll keep it in mind for the future. Thanks for the sound advice !
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    Never too late LOL....you can shoot it right into any opening on the hull. It's the sponsons that really will hold a lot of water when an accident happens.
    If you use the expanding foam be VERY VERY careful as to how much you use as it could possibly separate your joints and screw things up. Get the out door foam and do a little practice run in a can or something to see just how much it expands. I have been using it for years so I am used to it with no worries of hurting the hull.
    PT-45 109 mph and climbing
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    Earlier in the thread I had this shot showing the foam so far. I used the cutouts left behind in the laser cutting to pattern the styrofoam. It packed in there pretty tight. I?ll still add more when everything is finalized. Still got to run the waterlines.
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    Perfect !! Looks good. Like I said every place water can accumulate is weight on the hull to bring it down under.
    Always expect the main entry to be the cowl and make sure it is VERY well secured to the hull.I only speak from the many times mine has cracked,broken off and what ever else but....I am also talking about a boat's that are going faster in the 60,70 and up mph range. My cowl on the PT-45 has 7 thumb screw downs and is well taped up before every run.
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    PT-45 109 mph and climbing
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    Thumb screws is what it takes ? Guess that messes up my plan. I set up magnets to hold it in place and was counting on tape to do the heavy lifting of keeping the hatch in place when running. Watching M5 performance on YouTube he runs magnets on his hydros. I added a couple of formers to bend the cowl just a little so it flushes out better with the hull. I plan on filling the cowl with foam too.
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    Finally had a chance to look you up Pete. Awesome job my friend!
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    Thanks Doug! This sure is fun to build and I hope I’m capable of driving this kind of boat.
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    Here a a couple of glamour shots. I am working on running the water lines, I have to wait on more aluminum tube to arrive and then I?ll post what I installed. I?m also working on a turbine exhaust to print and add to the cowl. I just like the look. Same goes for the wing , but in its case I?m not going to install that until I get the boat running balanced and trimmed out to run nicely. I?ll add the wing later and see if it messes up the boat or slows it down terribly. It may just go on the boat when it?s sitting still on display at home. Who knows it may work fine at speed. Won?t know unless I try.
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    You might want to add some wing struts for more support.
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    Yep something like that will probably be needed but the wing is just in the thinking about it stage. I want it to be really light, adjustable, easy to remove and easy to make new ones when it gets destroyed in a flip.
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    I got the water lines run thru the boat today. Nothing spectacular, just aluminum tubes with a bit of brass tube the next size up glued to the ends to form a sort of flair to help hold the silicon tube. They run down the left side, and up and over the rudder servo. The pictures of the run are upside down and I can’t fix that. Something goes funny with the upload. I ran one to the motor and made the exhaust out the right sponson and the other line feeds the esc and it exits the hull on the left sponson. That’s the arrows pointing out the exhaust’s. I?d like to be able to see really easily that both cooling lines are flowing and having them exit on opposite sides of the boat should make it easy to spot problems. At least I hope it does.

    I think a lot of sanding and painting is next. I really hate painting, I?m not good at it. What do you guys paint with ? Just rattle cans or something more serious?

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    When you prime the hull...I always let it sit for a week. You will be amazed at how much the wood soaks up the primer and it sinks in. Then I sand and primer again and it's good to go. Buy a good epoxy paint and use a bear coat. The Eastwood company sells everything you need. They actually have a spray epoxy in spray can that you mix in the can itself with a push button on top. It's really cool !!

    Also be prepared to make changes to the rid pads as far as angle of attack goes. You may need some carbon fiber plates added on to get the boat where you need.
    So I never make the sponson ride pads "finished" just in case I have to adjust them with some carbon plates.
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    Thanks for the tips, I’m not sure what I’ll do for paint yet. I’m not
    going for a car quality paint finish. That type of paint is so much more expensive. I know building a hydro to race isn’t cheap but dropping a couple hundred just for paint
    is tough to swallow.

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    I have had to go back to work so that?s killing my time to play with the boat. I did get my fancy prop and it looks great. I also started working on adding my turbine exhaust to the cowl. Still needs some smooothing out but it?s getting there
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    Like I said look into Eastwood as they will for sure have what you are looking for.
    Or...you can have a custom decal kit made for the boat like I did and was only $60.00 for some wild colors. WORLD CLASS WRAPS does them.
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    Ok thanks, I'll take a look. Never thought of a wrap

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    Not much to show today, I got the wire drive cut down to size. Not much to show there, just abrasive disk cut the wire to have the 1/8 gap between the drive dog and the strut called for in Brent?s instructions. What I did make was a protective cone to put on the wire drive storage tube. Brent says to pull the wire drive after the day of running the boat and store it in the plastic tube he provided. That?s fine but I?d rather not pull the prop every time too. So I made this. It slips on the tube and has a TPU ( rubber ) cap to protect the prop while it?s stored off the boat.
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    Its been slow going. Lots of other stuff eating up my play time. All I have managed to do is get the hull sanded and the first bit of primer on it. It sure does make the boat look different
    I'm just going to rattle can it. I cant talk myself into spending the money fancy paint costs. If it was covered with a couple of hundred dollars worth of paint work and graphics I would not have as much fun with it constantly worrying about scratching it up. Going by my other boats its gonna happen. 6$ a can is more my speed right now.
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    Looking great Pete, and love the prop holder!

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