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  • Damien
    Junior Member
    • Dec 2019
    • 19

    #1

    What to use?

    I?m running a 3/16 flex cable just wondering what is the best thing to use between drive dog and strut gap??
  • 30nitro
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2018
    • 330

    #2
    Normally just a gap between drive dog and strut...no washer or bushing.... Cable shrinks a bit when under load, You don't want the drive dog hitting the strut at all.....

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    • HTVboats
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2011
      • 803

      #3

      Put 2 washers on and a bit of grease and the drive dog will never hit the strut.
      Mic

      Mic Halbrehder
      IMPBA 8656
      NAMBA 1414

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      • fweasel
        master of some
        • Jul 2016
        • 4279

        #4
        I prefer to just run with an appropriate sized gap, and no washers.
        Vac-U-Tug Jr (13mph)

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        • RaceMechaniX
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Sep 2007
          • 2821

          #5
          The gap for a collet set-up should be set based on the length of cable. For short cable lengths, smaller gaps around 1/8" are OK. Longer cables should have a larger gap, start with 3/16".
          Look for signs of contact between the end of the strut and drive dog and adjust as needed. Ideally, you do not want too much gap.
          Tyler Garrard
          NAMBA 639/IMPBA 20525
          T-Hydro @ 142.94mph former WR

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          • Damien
            Junior Member
            • Dec 2019
            • 19

            #6
            Thanks guys for feedback I also noticed it takes in a bit of water between gap and runs up the back of strut through the stuffing tube and in the boat any ideas how to stop it

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            • ray schrauwen
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Apr 2007
              • 9471

              #7
              Originally posted by RaceMechaniX
              The gap for a collet set-up should be set based on the length of cable. For short cable lengths, smaller gaps around 1/8" are OK. Longer cables should have a larger gap, start with 3/16".
              Look for signs of contact between the end of the strut and drive dog and adjust as needed. Ideally, you do not want too much gap.
              Than you for confirming something I have pondered for years!
              Nortavlag Bulc

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              • NativePaul
                Greased Weasel
                • Feb 2008
                • 2759

                #8
                A piece of silicone water tubing or heat shrink tubing over the stuffing tube on the inside of the boat so it lightly touches the flex or wire, will stop most of the water coming up the shaft.
                Paul Upton-Taylor, Greased Weasel Racing.

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                • tales
                  Junior Member
                  • Oct 2019
                  • 4

                  #9
                  marine grease on the cable

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                  • Revolt Flash
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2015
                    • 437

                    #10
                    Originally posted by tales
                    marine grease on the cable
                    Marine grease works really good for me sporting around on the water.

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                    • 785boats
                      Wet Track Racing
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 3169

                      #11
                      Beveling the front edge of the drive dog also reduces the water being forced up into the stuffing tube.

                      The bottom one is beveled. The top one is not.

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                      • Fluid
                        Fast and Furious
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 8012

                        #12
                        Because the cable will shorten differently in each application due to length, stiffness, clearance in the stuffing tube, and load it is not possible to determine a perfect gap. Using washers between the strut and drive dog with no gap means that the cable will be in tension, causing excess drag and stress on the cable. As Tyler mentions above, a minimal gap is best, but you must not have the drive dog touching the strut.

                        I seldom have used one, but as mentioned a short piece of silicon fuel tubing on the inboard end of the stuffing tube can virtually eliminate water intrusion from the drive line, see below.



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                        • properchopper
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 6968

                          #13
                          Originally posted by 785boats
                          Beveling the front edge of the drive dog also reduces the water being forced up into the stuffing tube.

                          The bottom one is beveled. The top one is not.

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                          Well I just learned a good tip - Thanks

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                          In exchange , here's another method which works well to keep water from entering the joint between the stuffing tube and strut - cover the joint with siliconed-inside shrink ; has substantially cured water intrusion for me :

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                          Here I had to notch the strut to allow the shrink to slip on :

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                          2008 NAMBA P-Mono & P-Offshore Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder; '15 P-Cat, P-Ltd Cat 2-Lap
                          2009/2010 NAMBA P-Sport Hydro Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder, '13 SCSTA P-Ltd Cat High Points
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                          • Capt'n Crash
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2015
                            • 166

                            #14
                            I had a similar problem with one of my Pursuits with water entering the stuffing tube. All I had to do to solve the problem was change my method of greasing. After greasing the flex shaft I would put a couple pumps of grease from the gun in the stern end of the stuffing tube before inserting the shaft. Never had a problem after using that method. You do have to make sure to clean the end of the shaft of any grease before inserting it into the collet.

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                            • martin
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • Aug 2010
                              • 2887

                              #15
                              As Paul has shown the bevel on the front of the dog helps prevent water being forced into the strut/stuffing tube. I have also been using this method for a long time now along with other usual mods to prevent water coming up the stuffing tube into the boat.

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