2019 10th annual LOTO Mini Shootout pictures

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  • fweasel
    master of some
    • Jul 2016
    • 4282

    #16
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    Vac-U-Tug Jr (13mph)

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    • fweasel
      master of some
      • Jul 2016
      • 4282

      #17
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      Vac-U-Tug Jr (13mph)

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      • Bp9145
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Jan 2016
        • 1466

        #18
        Some real good times there Ryan. .awesome pics!

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        • Fluid
          Fast and Furious
          • Apr 2007
          • 8012

          #19
          Originally posted by Doug Smock
          I wonder what the race organizers plan to do if / when there is a runaway and one of the many people in the water get hurt or worse?
          Not to be a wet blanket, but coming from a strong safety culture I wonder the same thing. It’s all fun and games until someone gets hurt.....



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          • T.S.Davis
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Oct 2009
            • 6221

            #20
            Originally posted by Fluid
            It’s all fun and games until someone gets hurt.....
            Officially the most dangerous site I've ever seen. Can you imagine going for a dip and catching a rogue cat in the face at a 100mph? Yikes.
            Noisy person

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            • fweasel
              master of some
              • Jul 2016
              • 4282

              #21
              Originally posted by Bp9145
              Some real good times there Ryan. .awesome pics!
              Thanks! Most of the good pics are from the professionals that cover the event.
              Vac-U-Tug Jr (13mph)

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              • fweasel
                master of some
                • Jul 2016
                • 4282

                #22
                Team Real Nauti Racing had a solid event with mostly new builds and very few test runs prior. Cameron's beautiful 70" CRC Fountain Kilo boat ran 3mph faster than it did during our 1st tuning session over 4th of July. No mechanical problems and it received a lot of positive feedback from the spectators. This was Cameron's first scratch build and he nailed it. Dr. Brian's Genesis was back in action and only a few mph off last years pace. Not bad for a driver who has a grand total of 7 runs under his RC belt. Nick's Traxxas M41 was purchased just two weeks ago and is his first RC boat. It was stuck at half throttle speed and we finally sorted out the electronics late Saturday night. His first shootout run ever beat the speed printed on the box, and after we slapped on a bigger prop, he picked up another 10mph on run #2. He's hooked and already planning on the next boat purchase. Nick is going to be real disappointed to learn that not every modification nets you 10mph.

                And then there was American Ethanol... my baby. The build was only just recently completed and had it's two first shakedown runs in the weeks prior. I was happy with how it ran back in Chicago and had high hopes for Saturday morning. My first pass of the morning was incredibly slow so I brought it back to the dock to check if both props were spinning. That's when one motor took off in reverse at full noise, and tried to drag the hull under water in a weird death spin. We finally got it shut down and back to the pits. Turns out one of the ESC's lost its programming and was the likely culprit for the reverse mishap. I reprogrammed it, and thought we were back in business. I made a donation to the Top Gun charity so that I could do a few test passes at the end of the day. This time the boat ran a little quicker, was more predictable, but still off the pace from my previous test passes back home.

                After 5 passes, it started pulling to one side, so I shut it down and brought it back in. Popped the hatch, but the magic smoke had been released. The morning's reverse dilemma put a wobble in the right flex cable. It was my mistake for not pulling the cables between runs to inspect them. I blame the heat and surrounding eye candy. During the second run, that cable knotted up the teflon liner, and over heated the motor. The stuffing tube got so hot and the resistance was so high that the stuffing tube spun in the hull. The high amp draw took out the right ESC. I'm guessing the drag from the slower running prop on the right side over amped the left ESC and popped all the caps on that side too. The shootout was over for this little HPR. Time to shine it up and just look pretty the rest of the weekend. It was awesome to get so much positive feedback from the crowd on the paint job, but in all honesty, you could paint a turd with the American Ethanol livery and it would still be sexy. The rebuild planning is already underway. Next year there will be more German electronic bits and fewer unknown budget ones.
                Vac-U-Tug Jr (13mph)

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                • Zondar
                  Member
                  • May 2015
                  • 58

                  #23
                  Thanks Ryan for the pics. Like being there and hope to make it in 2020. Did you take one of Travis's boats there last year?
                  Traxxas Spartan, RCBB Zonda-R, Promarine MTR, Proboat IMP 31 v3, PB UL-19, Bonzai FE 47 Skater

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                  • Doug Smock
                    Moderator
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 5272

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Fluid
                    Not to be a wet blanket, but coming from a strong safety culture I wonder the same thing. It?s all fun and games until someone gets hurt.....
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                    Originally posted by T.S.Davis
                    Officially the most dangerous site I've ever seen. Can you imagine going for a dip and catching a rogue cat in the face at a 100mph? Yikes.
                    They address safety in the rules. #2,10,15 & #16.
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                    • fweasel
                      master of some
                      • Jul 2016
                      • 4282

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Zondar
                      Thanks Ryan for the pics. Like being there and hope to make it in 2020. Did you take one of Travis's boats there last year?
                      Would be great to see you there! I ran a 27" Mini Zonda on 4S at the last two events, both build by Travis. 92mph in 2017 and 88mph in 2018. The water has to be just right for that boat to make a pass like that and it was taking the fun out of it for me so I moved on to larger hulls. Once the rollers start making their way into the cove from the main channel, it can be really challenging. I still claim to be the fastest boat per inch on the Lake of the Ozarks

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                      Vac-U-Tug Jr (13mph)

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                      • Fluid
                        Fast and Furious
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 8012

                        #26
                        They address safety in the rules. #2,10,15 & #16....
                        Those are not true safety rules, they simply “prohibit” behavior. They do not mitigate the safety hazards at all. They just “penalize” prohibited behavior after it happens. Not a modern proactive approach, more like a 1970s set of “rules”. The risk to spectators by an out of control boat is not addressed at all. Neither NAMBA nor IMPBA would insure this event, I wonder what entity would pay for someone severely injured or killed by an errant R/C boat - most likely the boat driver. Very disappointing.


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                        • Doug Smock
                          Moderator
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 5272

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Fluid
                          Those are not true safety rules, they simply “prohibit” behavior. They do not mitigate the safety hazards at all. They just “penalize” prohibited behavior after it happens. Not a modern proactive approach, more like a 1970s set of “rules”. The risk to spectators by an out of control boat is not addressed at all. Neither NAMBA nor IMPBA would insure this event, I wonder what entity would pay for someone severely injured or killed by an errant R/C boat - most likely the boat driver. Very disappointing.


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                          I should have used more of these.. You're right, NAMBA and IMBPA or any responsible organization would not sanction an event at this venue.

                          I imagine the lawyers would go after the boat owner, event organizers, and anyone else they thought they could get a dime from. And rightly so.

                          It happens.....https://forums.offshoreelectrics.com...runaway-bj29v3
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                          • T.S.Davis
                            Fast Electric Addict!
                            • Oct 2009
                            • 6221

                            #28
                            I watched a guy that I have utmost respect for, hall of fame racer, worlds competitor lose control of his B hydro. Meticulous, detailed, real deal racer, doing it how he's supposed to..........burned into the opposite shore at wide open throttle. Nobody around it. It can happen to the best of them.

                            I wonder if that video is still around of the JAG team burning into the bank around 140mph at Legg Lake. That was disturbing. Those guys are the very cream of the crop and still hit shore.

                            Sadly, it will likely require a tragedy for this event to care about the safety of the spectators.
                            Noisy person

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                            • Steven Vaccaro
                              Administrator
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 8720

                              #29
                              Thanks for the great pictures.

                              But I do agree, Safety is huge. One issue these days and they want to shut us all down.
                              Steven Vaccaro

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