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    Default Respirator for prop work

    My old respirator that I used to paint boat and for prop work is getting a bit old so I am looking for new one. What do you guys think of this one with the filters?

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IF7RBS4...v_ov_lig_dp_it

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B009POHH94...v_ov_lig_dp_it
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    I use a similar one. My mask needs new filters.
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    how many people do their work under water?
    i know eventually you have to handle it on dry land.
    i use a shallow bowl of water for a few strokes and any burrs and the masks i use were from Home Pimple and HF and filters from local body shop. i usually do this outside with my misters on.

    Mask # N95
    Beryllium and
    compounds (as Be)

    https://multimedia.3m.com/mws/media/...tion-guide.pdf
    https://multimedia.3m.com/mws/media/...d-brochure.pdf
    https://materion.com/-/media/files/c...gmaterials.pdf
    https://www.practicalmachinist.com/v...copper-246857/
    Raydee you'll live forever. i'd double check on the Cartridge filter though.
    Last edited by Stillwet; 08-19-2018 at 05:53 PM. Reason: so much information

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    I have always done all my prop work..(Berylium) under water... According to a friend who is a metalurgic...Berylium is very toxic when inhaled as a dust...not so much as a solid....poses no real threat when wet sanded...as long as you have no open wounds on your fingers to allow absorption.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stillwet View Post
    how many people do their work under water?
    i know eventually you have to handle it on dry land.
    i use a shallow bowl of water for a few strokes and any burrs and the masks i use were from Home Pimple and HF and filters from local body shop. i usually do this outside with my misters on.



    Mask # N95
    Beryllium and
    compounds (as Be)

    https://multimedia.3m.com/mws/media/...tion-guide.pdf
    https://multimedia.3m.com/mws/media/...d-brochure.pdf
    https://materion.com/-/media/files/c...gmaterials.pdf
    https://www.practicalmachinist.com/v...copper-246857/
    Raydee you'll live forever. i'd double check on the Cartridge filter though.
    What I was thinking. A shop sink or wash pan. I’ve done my fair share of wet sanding and polishing firearms. Doing it right in a sink is less messy than on a bench.

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    No open wounds on hands please (11 days in hospital, 6 in ICU on a breathing machine, beryllium/copper poisoning) I only wet sanded, but in doing so got a few little cuts (enough to bleed a bit, not much but enough). Lung Doctor said it infected my lungs through the blood stream. Was in the hospital less than 6hrs after finishing for the night not being able to breath. He also said, just like lead poisoning, it never leaves your body. Although you can build up a tolerance, just takes longer for your lungs to start failing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnc View Post
    No open wounds on hands please (11 days in hospital, 6 in ICU on a breathing machine, beryllium/copper poisoning) I only wet sanded, but in doing so got a few little cuts (enough to bleed a bit, not much but enough). Lung Doctor said it infected my lungs through the blood stream. Was in the hospital less than 6hrs after finishing for the night not being able to breath. He also said, just like lead poisoning, it never leaves your body. Although you can build up a tolerance, just takes longer for your lungs to start failing.
    That’s enough info to stop me. I can’t go a day without taking skin off my hands. Heck, the last time I had my boat out, I sliced my palm open on the turn fin when wiping down the hull when packing up for the day.

    I’ll have to get out the welding gloves and scuba gear when prepping poisonous props....or just pay someone else to do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawcer View Post
    .or just pay someone else to do it.
    That's where I'm at. I've got lung issues to begin with, but health aside, the work the pros do is no where near what I could ever do myself and the price is well worth it when you consider the time involved.
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    I spoke with a major supplier of berylliun copper years ago at a trade show. They told me that the major health problem is the intake of copper, not so much beryllium. I always use a good respirator, not the worthless paper paint masks. Those do not form a seal against the face and allow plenty of contaminants into the lungs. Spend an extra $20 and invest in a healthy future rather than save $18 and experience lung problems.

    Example: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00079FOK0..._oq-UBbPTRZYXW


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    Quote Originally Posted by fweasel View Post
    That's where I'm at. I've got lung issues to begin with, but health aside, the work the pros do is no where near what I could ever do myself and the price is well worth it when you consider the time involved.
    Yep. I just ordered a prepped and ready prop from OSE. About $50. Seems expensive up front until you break it down. Prop is roughly $20, so $30 for labor and supplies to do the work.

    That’s a bargain. I sharpened and balanced my stock stainless prop. That job isn’t something I’d like to do for $30.

    I usually prefer to do any work needed myself. It doesn’t matter what the task is. But I’m learning, someone does this stuff as a profession, it’s their job. Just as I have my own profession and it’s my job. I need work to get payed, they need work to get payed....so I’m more willing now to let someone else do work they are probably better and more efficient at than I am.

    When all of the prop preppers are gone....then what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawcer View Post
    Yep. I just ordered a prepped and ready prop from OSE. About $50. Seems expensive up front until you break it down. Prop is roughly $20, so $30 for labor and supplies to do the work.

    That’s a bargain. I sharpened and balanced my stock stainless prop. That job isn’t something I’d like to do for $30.

    I usually prefer to do any work needed myself. It doesn’t matter what the task is. But I’m learning, someone does this stuff as a profession, it’s their job. Just as I have my own profession and it’s my job. I need work to get payed, they need work to get payed....so I’m more willing now to let someone else do work they are probably better and more efficient at than I am.

    When all of the prop preppers are gone....then what?
    I have no plans of Dying LOL,, I would love to teach my trade to a worthy kid !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dasboata View Post
    I have no plans of Dying LOL,, I would love to teach my trade to a worthy kid !!!
    I've heard rave reviews on your prop work.
    Before you hang it up and retire. maybe make a vid series and put em on Patreon or youtube. make some extra $$ for your knowledge. It's not the same as hands on training, but it could be a good start for some folks.

    Finding a kid these days willing to learn a trade is like trying to win the lottery. but it is possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawcer View Post
    I've heard rave reviews on your prop work.
    Before you hang it up and retire. maybe make a vid series and put em on Patreon or youtube. make some extra $$ for your knowledge. It's not the same as hands on training, but it could be a good start for some folks.

    Finding a kid these days willing to learn a trade is like trying to win the lottery. but it is possible.
    I will never retire unless my health will not let me do props any more thanks man

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    Too bad we don't live closer Chris. My kid is a boating super freak.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T.S.Davis View Post
    Too bad we don't live closer Chris. My kid is a boating super freak.
    To Bad is correct Terry,,, I think I have a pretty safe set up also !!! My grandson was by my side boating and running cars till he discovered girls so good luck with that

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    I think I am done doing my own props and will leaving it up to the pros from now on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raydee View Post
    I think I am done doing my own props and will leaving it up to the pros from now on.
    When yer guessing on props it's hard to invest in having someone else do them for you. These guys don't work fer free.

    I use a respirator. Hard to work under water when I'm on the belt thinning a blade. That's what we need. A water cooled narrow belt.
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    I'd look into lapidary tools, I'm sure they have something like that.

    I found this guy, a little overkill but what more could you want https://www.riogrande.com/product/Ca...kaAhbaEALw_wcB

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