Introducing the "Prince" rcbt-1111

[Tech Head]

This boat is my prefered choice.

This version from Hong Kong on ebay has twin turn fins, trim tabs, brushless water-cooled inrunner. See the pics!

Looks like a nice boat and reports are positive for it's handling.

I will have one for christmas. Can't wait!

Regards, Brett.

[sewerpit]

how big is it and whats it go for

[Meniscus]

Any pictures of the bottom, underneath?

[Fluid]

This thread sounds like marketing spam to me. Is the OP a dealer or does he/she work for the manufacturer or distributor? The boats for sale on eBay are not the same as the one pictured here - this one has more hardware and perhaps a better motor (still pretty small). Even the OP's screen name is dubious - "Head Tech"? Where is the cred?


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[Diegoboy]

Here is more info about the poster Jay.

Hey everyone, my name is Brett.

I'm into RC cars and boats. I currently have a tamiya TL-01 with DNA1 body and will soon have a SuperVee27 or an rcbt-1111, not sure yet.

I love drawing RC stuff and have included some of my work.

I live on the Northern Beaches of Sydney, Australia.

I hope I can be a worthy contributor and a friend to all.

Regards, Brett.

Hi all,

The drawings take me approx 8 Days, and many hours to complete each one.
I guess my next drawing will be of a boat.

Glad you like them!

My experience with RC has included Tamiya "Boomerang", "Grasshopper"
Mugen "Bulldog", TL-01. I still have the Boomerang and TL-01.
F1 27" Tunnel with 3.5 K&B O/B and tuned pipe (Cutaway skeg).
26" .21 Nitro Mono Vee.
Now the new electric boat is nearly here.

Used to be part of the Sydney Model Power Boat club and I have raced against American boaties at ORAN PARK in Sydney outer west about 20 years ago.

Here are some more pics. If you want better resolution ask and you shall recieve.
The original files are almost 380mb!

Regards, Brett.

[Flying Scotsman]

That hull looks like a knockoff Delta Force.

Douggie

[Tech Head]

Sorry to disapoint, but i'm just a pensioner in Aust who found a new boat on ebay.
No spies or espionage to see here.

It's actually a rcbt-1107 on the site. Google it! They are going for $210 US for the kit.

Here are more details:

25" deep vee ARTR set. 2881 KV brushless water-cooled in-runner motor with 70A ESC. Boat hull made up hand laid fibreglass with white gel coat. Recommended for use of 3-4s Li-Po or 6-12 cells Ni-mh batteries (batteries not included). Speed reaches up to 85km/h. Radio system not included.

Specification:

Length: 25" (excludes rudder and strut)
Beam: 8"
Motor: 2881KV in-runner with aluminum water-cooled motor mount
ESC: 70A with water cooling jacket (installed)
Drive system: cullet, 4mm flexi cable, brass tube, Teflon lining, Teflon washer, 35mm bronze propeller, prop nut, drive dog, aluminum strut (installed)
Rudder: 95mm aluminum (blade un-installed)
Turn Funs: aluminum (installed)
Trim Tab: aluminum with stainless steel plate (installed)
Other accessories: antenna mount, water tubing’s (installed), water outlet (installed)

They don't have a bottom view of the boat on ebay, but i'm pretty sure it is a delta knockoff!

Regards, Brett.

[Fluid]

I appologize to Brett and stand corrected.


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[Avanti]

That is a delta knock off, you will be happy with the handling, but you will want to upgrade to a 540 size motor. It is currently underpowered, like most eBay boats.

[Tech Head]

Hey Fluid,

Don't sweat it! I'm OK, just a little bruise on my brain!


Like most of the RTR or ARTR boats from just about anywhere, if you want to go fast, you need to upgrade to a good power plant.
These items don't come cheap, i believe i am going to find that out very soon.

Do you think this setup would be "quickish" as standard with the right batteries?
Any opinions?


Regards, Brett.

[Avanti]

I would go for an SV type set up in the hull, she would fly.

[Tech Head]

Hey Avanti,

SuperVee setup? Which parts?

Everything including the hardware or just the motor and ESC?

I had planned to get an XL motor, 120A ESC and lipos that are suggested for the hull.

Thoughts?

Brett.

[andym]

This is just my opinion but for the price these boats are a way better deal than a super flip. 3 cell with a decent prop should be faster than a standard V. At only 25" would make a great 2s boat with a Neu and hydra 240.

[Tech Head]

The only things that turned me away from the SV27 are the bow point, (Looks like a UBoat) and the lack of turn fins and trim tabs. Otherwise it's a nice boat.

Thanks andym, for your input. All suggestions will be taken into carefull consideration before i take the plunge into the upgrades.

I am a pensioner so every purchase has to hit the nail on the head!

Regards, Brett.

[Avanti]

The SV parts I was referring to would be the motor & esc

and yes the stock delta hulls will perform way better than a stock sv hull.

[planezero]

...and yes the stock delta hulls will perform way better than a stock sv hull.

Why is that, because it's a shallow vee ?

[Ocean Racer]

Here you go Tech this is a link to the SV motor and esc combo. Planezero from my understanding if you look at each boat the Delta is more a race boat. The SV is a is kinda of a race boat/have fun runner because it was meant for first timers but you can make it fly if you have the funds. Also it looks like the delta has more hull below the deck you can see this when you look at them from the side. This would help the boat get a nice running surface and keep its CG real low.

[Tech Head]

This is the preferred set up on another site:

Motor...Ammo 2300kv
Esc... HiMark 200A (with bec)
Prop... Octura X637
Batteries...4s Lipo (2 x 2s packs in series)

Thoughts? Brett.

[Ocean Racer]

from what it says here you are going to pull a maximum of 100Amps but you have to remember this is not continuous.
If you dont know what that means it essentially means you will pull X amount of amps while driving. Max amps are
what you pull from the start or if you wrap the prop in somin etc.
Ammo 2300kv
If you dont want a 200amp esc a 150amp will work just as well here are 2 that will work.
etti-esc-race-150-BEC
etti-esc-race-150

[Tech Head]

The second Pic shows a BEC though it says in the description "no BEC".

Are the prices shown AUST$ or US$?

What are the pros and cons of BEC setups in FE boats?
Is there any advantage having a dedicated RX battery in a boat that uses lipos?

Thanks for the feedback, Brett.

[Steven Vaccaro]

picture is wrong. I will be changing it tonight. price is in US dollars

[Tech Head]

The second Pic shows a BEC though it says in the description "no BEC"?????

Are the prices shown AUST$ or US$?

What are the pros and cons of BEC setups in FE boats?
Is there any advantage having a dedicated RX battery in a boat that uses lipos?

Thanks for the feedback, Brett.

[Ocean Racer]

Im still learning to and this is one thing im still trying to learn about to. Maybe the next time steve logs in he can help us with that.

[Avanti]

Why is that, because it's a shallow vee ?

has more to do with the beam (width)

[Ocean Racer]

im not sure about that becaus ethe SV has a little wider hull than the delta. Thats also what i was thinking till i saw that.

[planezero]

My first thoughts were a shallow vee would have more hull in the water when on plane compared to the SV and that would probably give a more stable ride.
But I have no experience with a DF.

I'm asking cause Ill be looking for a new boat come spring and am having doubts wether to go for a 45" DF, a Toy Sport Cat or an expensive 2 engine H&M Drifter XL cat build.
Looking for high top speed and a stable ride rather than any cornering ability...

My main complaint with the SV was constant flipping at higher speeds...

[Darin Jordan]

My first thoughts were a shallow vee would have more hull in the water when on plane compared to the SV and that would probably give a more stable ride.

Take a shallow V to the extremes, and you end up with a Cracker Box... NOT the most stable boat in the fleet!

The shallow V creates more lift and won't always handle the power as well as a deeper V... There are obviously other factors as well, so this is more of a general comment...

[Tech Head]

Here is the bottom of the boat.

Found it on ebay. The bare hull is $49US.

Regards, Brett.

[SLAUGHTER_AUS]

those boats are great the are available from r2 hobbies, i have run one with an ammo 2300 & 2600 & a hydra 240, boat runs very well and stable, i ran this boat on 2x 2s 25c 5000mah packs and it was dynamite... and the hulls are very nicely laid up and quality finished.

[Tech Head]

The Prince has a much lower profile, compaired to the SV27.
The Cowl detail and sides of the SV27 hull are much taller.
The bow boint on the Prince is also much sharper.
The lower center-of-gravity of the Prince alone would be a huge advantage in the handling.

Yes/No?

Regards, Brett.